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Since I heard about Tumblrs new policy a week before it was implemented, I've been hard at work building Libr ( https://librapp.com ) to replace it. A large amount of art that isn't porn, but that qualifies as "adult content" under the new policy has been all but purged from the internet. It's impossible to ban adult content in a cost effective way without also banning a large amount of legitimate art. Libr is about…

Make it easy to report child porn, clearly illegal content. Tumblr actually made that tedious - multiple clicks, copy and paste after searching for the report page.

I'm going to try to get access to the free Google API for child porn detection, removal and reporting: https://www.blog.google/around-the-globe/google-europe/using...

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post #68

The artist claims that internet killed porn then switches to Yahoo News and is able to find what she is looking for, so it seems that she is unhappy that it is not reachable on Google. Another point is that when she worked with teenagers their biggest question was how to prevent diseases, pregnancy, one quick question- how would they find answers on porn sites? All the answers are available publicly on health related…

If I go to duckduckgo and type in porn related search keywords I get more sites than I could ever look at for the rest of my life.

The REAL problem is the tech monopolies ate the internet. The little sites are still out there, but they are slowly bleeding out to the app/social media giant/google filter bubble monopolies.

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post #192

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Another thing I saw in US is that they can't make the distinction between hardcore porn, soft porn, erotica, nudity and showing some cleavage. I used to work at a European game company that made erotic games for PocketPC. Our biggest market was US, and most negativity also came from US. Video striptease is labeled as "porn". What they preach is very different from how they act. You cannot say fuck or shit on tv or in…

> You cannot say fuck or shit on tv What TV shows are you talking about? Kids shows? American television in general is full of profanity. Some shows have way higher profanity content than what’s observed in real life, they always makes me wonder if certain demographics really fucking talk like that all the time.

>American television, in general, is full of profanity.

(FTFY) Are you confusing "private airwaves" (e.g.: subscriptions) with "public airwaves"? If so, see the FCC's position here[0].

[0] - https://www.fcc.gov/general/obscenity-indecency-and-profanit...

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Surprisingly? I'd expect any cultural shift to take place among young people. Older people already have their culture.

I guess you’re right, just weird to see young people turn to a form of conservatism.

I think it's normal. We now live in a world were liberalism is being shoved down our throats at all levels (mass media, education, ...). Young people are rebels by nature, so now, young people are moving to the right, especially in Europe.

What I mean to say is that this is not the result of US puritanism moving to Europe. Instead, I think it's a natural, homegrown trend, unrelated to religious sentiments.

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Exactly what is happening with planes. I'm still astonished every time I get into one and see the missing row 13. It's so ridiculous...

Some buildings don't have any floors labeled with a 4 because it is unlucky in China. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_numerology#Four

In the future we might have array libraries that provide arrays that don't have the 4th element.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Since I heard about Tumblrs new policy a week before it was implemented, I've been hard at work building Libr ( https://librapp.com ) to replace it. A large amount of art that isn't porn, but that qualifies as "adult content" under the new policy has been all but purged from the internet. It's impossible to ban adult content in a cost effective way without also banning a large amount of legitimate art. Libr is about…

I had the same idea :) But to make it sustainable, it needs to generate money. Advertisers don't like seeing their brands next to pr0n, so they won't come to your site. Unless, of course, you open it to adverts from people selling sexeh stuff, who can't get an ad to appear anywhere normally. Of course, you could charge for it... but people have been trained to expect internet services for free. Hopefully that's chang…

I have a plan for this. I know of an ad network that will let me run ads on Libr that supports both SFW and NSFW ads.

When you sign up for Libr you have to say if your blog is NSFW or not. Then Libr flags all content you post as NSFW or SFW depending on what you choose.

I can detect what content is on a page, then run SFW ads around SFW content and relevant NSFW ads around NSFW content. Google used to do the same thing if you turned off safe search with their AdWords ads.

I'd run the SFW ads near NSFW if it were possible, but it's not.

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The salem witch-hunts are taught but agree on the back burner.

Not only on the back burner, but as some kind of weird, separate thing. No one is connecting the dots to the puritans. History is taught like the news is reported, disconnected incidents. I am reminded of the children in Mad Max reciting how they crashed on their airplane.

>Not only on the back burner, but as some kind of weird, separate thing. No one is connecting the dots to the puritans.

True. It's why they repeated the very same prosecution complex trap during McCarthyism. Same finger-pointing scenario, it was just a different boogeyman to be afraid of - so it wasn't "the same".

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post #172

In general, superstitious behavior tends to win over non-superstitious behavior, even if it is a small minority . For example, say there are two communities in a given town; one of the community has decided that black doors were evil, and won't go through them. The other community doesn't care. Shops that have black doors lose the business of the superstitious community; even if that community is small, it simply mak…

Exactly what is happening with planes. I'm still astonished every time I get into one and see the missing row 13. It's so ridiculous...

Especially if you are superstitious and sit in row 14, you must know that this is actually row 13 undercover!

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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post #78

The sex-bad-violence-good meme confused me at least since I became aware of its existence aged about 14. I was 16 when I got a letter published in a UK national newspaper on this topic, pointing out the absurdity that deliberate murder could be shown in a cartoon aimed specifically at young kids (i.e. BBFC rating Uc), but people “my own age”[1] couldn’t see pictures of uncensored sex even though we could legally[1] p…

I think sex is just different from violence. Violence is something quite pulic. Sex is not. It's intimate. Also ~violence, not day to day drive to harm or kill people, just ability to attack for defense, is almost a desired skill. If you don't do that you'll be stepped on. If not physically, emotionally. So displays of violence is almost pedagogical. Reminds me that, as a kid, Japanese animated show were censored heavily because it was fights with blood.. but the warriors were always defending (fist of the north star, saint seiya,...). There was no psychopathic desire for aggression there.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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What's interesting to me is how Americans don't bat an eye on all the violence exposed in movies, music and games, but then become prudish when it comes to sex. And these are the traits of the exported American culture. In my European country it is perfectly normal to have pictures of your children naked. It's also OK for them to see a nude body now and then, like at the beach (and yes I am aware that I'm not talking…

> So as a citizen of an EU country [...] why do I have to suffer from the censorship of US companies? Technically, because you volunteer to. If the internet companies on your continent are not relieving your suffering, it's either the fault of them or an extremely unfortunate side effect of applying the lowest common denominator of laws on a global medium. Considering the latter, one might similarly question why othe…

Blocking "controversial" things is cheaper for social media companies than keeping them up (most of the times); they're not in the business of making a fair and enjoyable platform. They're in the business of selling you: useless subscriptions, paid propaganda, items you once searched but have no interest in or have already bought recently, questionable financial/legal services and of course everything else that would make them even slightly more money.

It's not like Facebook actively wants to choose the things that should be banned, they really do not care. It's just that their analysis shows that they could make more money blocking a few nipples because advertisers will pay more on average, and given the choice a company will chose profit over the wellbeing of their product.

I actually like the EU clamping down on internet companies (although it's far from perfect, to say the least). Companies shouldn't have so much power over society they should be controlled by society or they will just spiral towards money like a paperclip factory AI spiralling towards paperclips.

Why should it be fair that a newspaper is responsible for the public letters and ads they publish, but Facebook should not be responsible for the public's messages and ads they publish just because they don't print on paper but use the internet? If a company makes money off public content, the company should be liable for it. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Finally, it's not about people "volunteering" to abide by rules of a social media company. If it would be about the user, they would just make a setting and let the users choose for themselves what they do and do not want to see. It is in fact about advertisers dictating rules and internet companies seeing nothing in their way from screwing over their users in order to make more money.

We've seen this before, companies screwing people over to make money when there are no/weak regulations. The internet should be free, but companies generating revenue from it should be regulated.

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