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Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Post by aussieguy1234 »

Since I heard about Tumblrs new policy a week before it was implemented, I've been hard at work building Libr (https://librapp.com) to replace it.

A large amount of art that isn't porn, but that qualifies as "adult content" under the new policy has been all but purged from the internet.

It's impossible to ban adult content in a cost effective way without also banning a large amount of legitimate art.

Libr is about two thirds of the way there (source is on GitHub) and I have posting, content search, blog feeds and content authoring of video/images and text posts done. Following, liking and the main feed are next.

This will be a Progresive web app - No app store needed, meaning no app store bans.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Post by nopriorarrests »

Mirioron wrote: post #19
nopriorarrests wrote: post #6

Whats the point of this article? Tumblr is supposed to be monetized. You can't monetize porn content, so tumblr has 'no pron' policy now. Sorry, this is how the world works. Boo. Meanwhile, any kind of porn is plentiful if you go to the different url. Enter any keyword and have porn catered to your interest, in a good quality, abundant. Seriously, this was unimaginable 15 years ago, and yet author claims that someone…

The problem is that it's not just the sites that don't get funding, but it's hosting providers and pretty much the entire chain of services that you use that won't do business with you if there's sexual content involved.

Isn't it how the real world works? Have you ever seen BMW or P&G ad in a hardcore porn magazine you have recenty bought?

Internet is only different bc VC bucks were willing to tolerate porn for some time, like in tumblr case. Time is up, so everyone has to play by society rules now.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Post by halfjoking »

nopriorarrests wrote: post #6

Whats the point of this article? Tumblr is supposed to be monetized. You can't monetize porn content, so tumblr has 'no pron' policy now. Sorry, this is how the world works. Boo. Meanwhile, any kind of porn is plentiful if you go to the different url. Enter any keyword and have porn catered to your interest, in a good quality, abundant. Seriously, this was unimaginable 15 years ago, and yet author claims that someone…

That's the real story here - payment processors and the US gov are policing morality by making it impossible to run a for-profit NSFW business:

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/03/payment-processors-are...

Tumblr and similar sites are just a casualty of monopolistic payment processors doing the bidding of the government. IMO - as long as what you're doing is legal you should be able to make money for it. Anything less is censorship.

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Post by kome »

nopriorarrests wrote: post #6

Whats the point of this article? Tumblr is supposed to be monetized. You can't monetize porn content, so tumblr has 'no pron' policy now. Sorry, this is how the world works. Boo. Meanwhile, any kind of porn is plentiful if you go to the different url. Enter any keyword and have porn catered to your interest, in a good quality, abundant. Seriously, this was unimaginable 15 years ago, and yet author claims that someone…

Tumblr exists since February 2007; they lived, grew and prospered with erotica (and much more!) for 10 years.

Let's stop telling ourselves that you can monetize with erotica. It's just American Puritanism, and yes, it's breaking the internet.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Post by gesman »

lazyjones wrote: post #3

YMMV... For me, the last straw was having to click away 2-3 banners that cover the content on every website and then often being slapped in the face with a subscription box. This is simply conditioning me to expect disappointment and hence to stop clicking on links. Even on HN I find myself clicking straight on the comment links to get an idea of what the link is about.

I think something like outline.com is going to change that. If publishers will keep flooding their content with garbage - somebody is going to clean it for them.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Post by xkcd-sucks »

nopriorarrests wrote: post #6

Whats the point of this article? Tumblr is supposed to be monetized. You can't monetize porn content, so tumblr has 'no pron' policy now. Sorry, this is how the world works. Boo. Meanwhile, any kind of porn is plentiful if you go to the different url. Enter any keyword and have porn catered to your interest, in a good quality, abundant. Seriously, this was unimaginable 15 years ago, and yet author claims that someone…

It sounds like the Illuminati social engineers need to start turning sex into a public matter, in order to capture this immense value.

Imagine-- The Internet has made boatloads of money, but 95 percent is un(der)monetized porn. That would assure economic growth until the end of the practically significant future.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Post by bad_user »

lazyjones wrote: post #15
bad_user wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your unwillingness to click on a popup is nothing compared with the systematic censorship that has been sweeping the web. This is one of those cases in which I wished for the first comment I’m seeing to not be so shallow.

> Your unwillingness to click on a popup is nothing compared with the systematic censorship that has been sweeping the web. Excuse me for not caring much about Tumblr porn, nor seeing all this supposedly rampant censorship on the web among all the hate speech and political propaganda. Perhaps you’re just expecting wrong content in the wrong places?

The article wasn't just about Tumblr porn, but yes, it shows that you only read the title and considered it a good opportunity to mention what else ails you.

Getting things off your chest is what HN is all about.

Re: Sex censorship killed the internet we love

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Post by nopriorarrests »

jacobwilliamroy wrote: post #20
nopriorarrests wrote: post #6

Whats the point of this article? Tumblr is supposed to be monetized. You can't monetize porn content, so tumblr has 'no pron' policy now. Sorry, this is how the world works. Boo. Meanwhile, any kind of porn is plentiful if you go to the different url. Enter any keyword and have porn catered to your interest, in a good quality, abundant. Seriously, this was unimaginable 15 years ago, and yet author claims that someone…

I don't understand why the corporate monoliths refuse to slap their ads on porno. Porno has got to be the most popular kind of content on the internet. Why cant my porno be brought to me in part by pepsi cola?

Good question.

I think (dont quote me) that porn ads could be seen as "lowest common denominator", aka "cheapest product on market", and, generally speaking, nobody in marketing department wants to be associated with such label.

We may argue that this is wrong and being advertised next to porn content does not carry such stigma, but this is how the world works, at least for now.

If some brand will start with porn advertising, their competitors will instantly postition themselves as "premium", "top class", etc, having nothing in common with porn.

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