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Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Unpopular opinion, but part of the problem is that stupid people are more likely to have kids, and especially many kids. Stupid people become stupid parents.

This is just code for poor people and if it is true it is because they can't afford (and/or don't have access to) fresh fruits, vegetables and quality meats.

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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I love the idea of having bacon and eggs for breakfast in the morning. The reality is though that bacon and eggs take time and effort while pouring a bowl of cereal is quick and easy.

Take a whole package of bacon, put it on a cookie sheet. Bake 15 minutes in the oven at 350 degrees to your liking. Remove, Drain/cool. Place bacon in freezer. Take eggs. Boil in water. Place in refrigerator. Voila, you now have bacon and eggs in the morning for multiple days with zero effort. Another easy one - McDonald’s style Egg McMuffin: You’ve got your frozen English muffins because you’re lazy and don’t want t…

Reheated bacon and eggs probably tastes awful.

I hate cooking bacon, especially in the morning, because the smell sticks to my clothes and my hair.

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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I may be wrong but I think many milks add sucrose. The other thing is if you don’t buy organic milk then your milk is also loaded with the antibiotics that we give to dairy cows which attaches to the fat in the milk. So a good rule is if you go organic get whole milk (because it is a good source of fat) but if you buy regular milk get skim (to avoid some of the antibiotics).

I’ve noticed that many products in the US now have an “added sugars” section under the sugars section in the nutritional labels. It always seems to be 0g in all of the milk bottles and cartons I’ve seen, but I’m pretty particular on my milk so I might not have seen the average kind that most people get.

The FDA allows manufactuers to round down for values less than .5g, it's why something like a dry rub for BBQ will have some sugar in it but the nutrition facts will say 0g sugar per serving.

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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You want them to get a heart attack instead? Lots of cultures have good breakfast that don't rely on sugar or cholesterol. Look to the Mediterranean/Middle East/Central Asia/Far East.

I'm pretty sure that the idea that cholesterol causes heart attacks is fake news.

Yeah. The problem with bacon is the nitrites, not the cholesterol.

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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There is a reason a large part of "cooking" in the past involved preserving/canning. Pickled food seems to have largely been relegated to cucumbers nowadays. And jellies/jams are used in quantities that wouldn't have made sense in the past. Probably the same for many alcohols. Yes, it was the boiling of the water that made it safe, but I suspect the rest of the process helped it stay safer longer. (Would have to dive…

You bring a good point! So I wonder if there is a way to come back to that more with buying foods from a store. Buy things that are preserved without sugar or similar preservatives? That may help?

I suspect the old ways of preserving are still fine to buy. Even if they use sugar, they likely aren't using as much as is in a single can of soda. Dried/corned/pickled/cured/etc are all ways people used to make things last longer.

I think the trick is that it is more than just eating food prepared that way. It is having a lot less of it. Seasonal foods may help your gut in some ways, I can't say. The fact that food was seasonal also meant you just ate a whole lot less of it.

(Above is pure speculation on my part, for what its worth. If someone has studied this, please correct me.)

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Unpopular opinion because it’s a tired, facile one. Oh, look, someone else watched the opening scene to Idiocracy , too. Let us look down on others together with our common trope! Problem is, it doesn’t really answer any questions or produce any useful new models. It was good for a laugh ten years ago, though. Here’s something that’ll bake your noodle: what if you’re not as clever as you think you are, and due to the…

>Here’s something that’ll bake your noodle: what if you’re not as clever as you think you are, and due to the DunkinDonuts-Keurig effect, you don’t know you’re one of the stupid ones? This is actually something I'm constantly preoccupied with. I've assumed the "Assume you're one of the stupid ones until proven otherwise" position. That said, if I had some objective statement that I was somehow below average that woul…

I think it's a safe bet that by some objective measure or other, you're below average. (As am I, and the rest of us.)

Don't worry, I expect there'll be some other equally objective measure by which you're above average.

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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You want them to get a heart attack instead? Lots of cultures have good breakfast that don't rely on sugar or cholesterol. Look to the Mediterranean/Middle East/Central Asia/Far East.

OP’s point is even bacon and eggs is healthier than boxed cereal. (My preferred breakfast is miso soup.)

I don't know about other families, but my child won't eat bacon and eggs or other non sugar laden breakfast. I eat bacon and eggs every morning. My child wants cereal, or poptarts, or frozen waffles/pancakes etc. When I removed these items in an effort to have him eat other healthier foods, he decided to not eat anything at home - he'd go to school and instead eat their sugar and carb breakfast. So while I can understand the thought process and well meaning of OP comment, it's one of a non parent attempting to give advice on parenting.

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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I noticed in the US the milk seemed a lot sweeter than what I'm used to. Then again I'm all about Museli and mainly eaten with soya milk, seems reasonably healthy and quick and easy.

In general, carbs break down into glucose for consumption... which isn't the worst thing. Fructose (about half, or more, of most natural sugars) is only able to be processed by the liver and usually in excess of what can be metabolized meaning a build up of fatty liver. This has other side effects leading to metabolic syndrome/diabetes/heart-disease. A big issue is that many people eating low fat actually don't get e…

> Without enough fat, many will see issues with their gal bladder over time

Wait what? I was under the impression that most gal bladder issues came from fat, not from not enough fat. Or is it one of those "both extremes are bad" thing?

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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All this money, time and effort in an attempt to market new low sugar cereals , these are the same company’s who: 1. Have been marketing their product as part of a balanced breakfast for decades, and 2. Continued increasing the amount of sugar while actively lobbying against any attempts to regulate marketing their sugary products to kids. Here is an idea...get rid of the sugary cereals and sugary milk entirely and f…

> get rid of the sugary cereals and sugary milk It took me a long time to realise that milk was sugary. I'd grown up worrying about the fat content of milk, but all milk, whether full fat or skimmed, has like 5g of sugar per 100ml, a pretty similar sugar content to Gatorade. We know milk has lactose but we don't usually think of lactose as a sugar like we do with sucrose or fructose.

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Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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post #51
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Unpopular opinion, but part of the problem is that stupid people are more likely to have kids, and especially many kids. Stupid people become stupid parents.

This is just code for poor people and if it is true it is because they can't afford (and/or don't have access to) fresh fruits, vegetables and quality meats.

Agreed.

Fresher foods also often have a shorter shelf life and are harder to store, which is a particular issue if getting to the store often is a struggle (e.g. public buses).

You then combine that with lack of cooking instruction in many low income public schools, and you have a recipe for ready meals and similar convenience foods.

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