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Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Post by kop316 » Wed, Jan 02, 2019, 3:25 PM UTC

taeric wrote: post #14

kop316 wrote: post #6

One thing I have been working on recently is cooking, especially from scratch and attempting to keep it healthy. One big thing I have noticed is that a lot of food (once cooked) has a very short shelf life (usually days), and if you have something with few ingredients, it requires quality ingredients. For prepackaged/premade foods, one would want food to stay good for longer than days once cooked/made, so it can be t…

There is a reason a large part of "cooking" in the past involved preserving/canning. Pickled food seems to have largely been relegated to cucumbers nowadays. And jellies/jams are used in quantities that wouldn't have made sense in the past. Probably the same for many alcohols. Yes, it was the boiling of the water that made it safe, but I suspect the rest of the process helped it stay safer longer. (Would have to dive…

You bring a good point! So I wonder if there is a way to come back to that more with buying foods from a store. Buy things that are preserved without sugar or similar preservatives? That may help?

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Post by Accacin » Wed, Jan 02, 2019, 3:29 PM UTC

will_brown wrote: post #8

All this money, time and effort in an attempt to market new low sugar cereals , these are the same company’s who: 1. Have been marketing their product as part of a balanced breakfast for decades, and 2. Continued increasing the amount of sugar while actively lobbying against any attempts to regulate marketing their sugary products to kids. Here is an idea...get rid of the sugary cereals and sugary milk entirely and f…

I noticed in the US the milk seemed a lot sweeter than what I'm used to. Then again I'm all about Museli and mainly eaten with soya milk, seems reasonably healthy and quick and easy.

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Post by ariehkovler » Wed, Jan 02, 2019, 3:30 PM UTC

will_brown wrote: post #8

All this money, time and effort in an attempt to market new low sugar cereals , these are the same company’s who: 1. Have been marketing their product as part of a balanced breakfast for decades, and 2. Continued increasing the amount of sugar while actively lobbying against any attempts to regulate marketing their sugary products to kids. Here is an idea...get rid of the sugary cereals and sugary milk entirely and f…

> get rid of the sugary cereals and sugary milk

It took me a long time to realise that milk was sugary. I'd grown up worrying about the fat content of milk, but all milk, whether full fat or skimmed, has like 5g of sugar per 100ml, a pretty similar sugar content to Gatorade.

We know milk has lactose but we don't usually think of lactose as a sugar like we do with sucrose or fructose.

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Post by mholmes680 » Wed, Jan 02, 2019, 3:32 PM UTC

kop316 wrote: post #6

One thing I have been working on recently is cooking, especially from scratch and attempting to keep it healthy. One big thing I have noticed is that a lot of food (once cooked) has a very short shelf life (usually days), and if you have something with few ingredients, it requires quality ingredients. For prepackaged/premade foods, one would want food to stay good for longer than days once cooked/made, so it can be t…

Kudos for focusing on cooking. It really changed my life when i started focusing on things like making bread, growing my own vegetables (at least to supplement store-bought), and learning the science and history behind foods/meals. I lost about 10 pounds just by learning how to cook and gaining an understanding of portion control and managing salt/nutrition levels. Also, I'm pretty confident my daycare-enrolled kids are less sick than their classmates who eat out one or more meals daily or are reliant on the bag of chicken nuggets and yellow-weird mac and cheese.

check out these youtube channels for some motivation (which i've picked up here on HN): https://www.youtube.com/user/BrothersGreenEats, https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPzFLpOblZEaIx2lpym1l1A. Also, I recently fell upon Alton Brown's new Good Eats Reboot... good stuff.

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Post by dangus » Wed, Jan 02, 2019, 3:33 PM UTC

flareback wrote: post #19

will_brown wrote: post #8

All this money, time and effort in an attempt to market new low sugar cereals , these are the same company’s who: 1. Have been marketing their product as part of a balanced breakfast for decades, and 2. Continued increasing the amount of sugar while actively lobbying against any attempts to regulate marketing their sugary products to kids. Here is an idea...get rid of the sugary cereals and sugary milk entirely and f…

I love the idea of having bacon and eggs for breakfast in the morning. The reality is though that bacon and eggs take time and effort while pouring a bowl of cereal is quick and easy.

Take a whole package of bacon, put it on a cookie sheet. Bake 15 minutes in the oven at 350 degrees to your liking. Remove, Drain/cool. Place bacon in freezer.

Take eggs. Boil in water. Place in refrigerator.

Voila, you now have bacon and eggs in the morning for multiple days with zero effort.

Another easy one - McDonald’s style Egg McMuffin:

You’ve got your frozen English muffins because you’re lazy and don’t want to deal with moldy bread. Throw one in the microwave for 30 seconds. Remove and place in toaster to toast. In the meantime crack an egg into a cereal bowl and microwave to poach. I think that’s 30 seconds? Now your egg and muffin are done, add cheese and ham or that frozen bacon from the above, microwave to melt the cheese and such.

Not the healthiest stuff out there but it’s by no means difficult. I think many people wanting to transition from buying pre-made food to making actual food need to do so in baby steps.

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Post by will_brown » Wed, Jan 02, 2019, 3:34 PM UTC

ariehkovler wrote: post #23

will_brown wrote: post #8

All this money, time and effort in an attempt to market new low sugar cereals , these are the same company’s who: 1. Have been marketing their product as part of a balanced breakfast for decades, and 2. Continued increasing the amount of sugar while actively lobbying against any attempts to regulate marketing their sugary products to kids. Here is an idea...get rid of the sugary cereals and sugary milk entirely and f…

> get rid of the sugary cereals and sugary milk It took me a long time to realise that milk was sugary. I'd grown up worrying about the fat content of milk, but all milk, whether full fat or skimmed, has like 5g of sugar per 100ml, a pretty similar sugar content to Gatorade. We know milk has lactose but we don't usually think of lactose as a sugar like we do with sucrose or fructose.

I may be wrong but I think many milks add sucrose.

The other thing is if you don’t buy organic milk then your milk is also loaded with the antibiotics that we give to dairy cows which attaches to the fat in the milk. So a good rule is if you go organic get whole milk (because it is a good source of fat) but if you buy regular milk get skim (to avoid some of the antibiotics).

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Post by kop316 » Wed, Jan 02, 2019, 3:36 PM UTC

mholmes680 wrote: post #24

kop316 wrote: post #6

One thing I have been working on recently is cooking, especially from scratch and attempting to keep it healthy. One big thing I have noticed is that a lot of food (once cooked) has a very short shelf life (usually days), and if you have something with few ingredients, it requires quality ingredients. For prepackaged/premade foods, one would want food to stay good for longer than days once cooked/made, so it can be t…

Kudos for focusing on cooking. It really changed my life when i started focusing on things like making bread, growing my own vegetables (at least to supplement store-bought), and learning the science and history behind foods/meals. I lost about 10 pounds just by learning how to cook and gaining an understanding of portion control and managing salt/nutrition levels. Also, I'm pretty confident my daycare-enrolled kids…

I will have to look at them, thank you! I have been going through the Good Eats, and I like them. Something else I found that has been amazing is that there are a few cooking lecture series from the Great Courses. They are expensive at full retail, but it is possible to get sales on them. I cannot recommend those enough.

I have also been going to my local library, and they have been indispensable for finding gems of cookbooks and find books on how to cook. I can basically try out a few recipes and see if I like them or not.

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Post by helo1252 » Wed, Jan 02, 2019, 3:37 PM UTC

will_brown wrote: post #8

All this money, time and effort in an attempt to market new low sugar cereals , these are the same company’s who: 1. Have been marketing their product as part of a balanced breakfast for decades, and 2. Continued increasing the amount of sugar while actively lobbying against any attempts to regulate marketing their sugary products to kids. Here is an idea...get rid of the sugary cereals and sugary milk entirely and f…

Bacon contains nitrates that have been proven to cause cancer. I believe the increased cancer rate is very low however. Also, "nitrate free" bacon usually contains nitrates in a different form (celery powder), which i've read actually contains more nitrates than typical and therefore is actually way worse. I would stick with eggs, with oatmeal, sweetened with some berries.

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Post by farresito » Wed, Jan 02, 2019, 3:39 PM UTC

will_brown wrote: post #8

All this money, time and effort in an attempt to market new low sugar cereals , these are the same company’s who: 1. Have been marketing their product as part of a balanced breakfast for decades, and 2. Continued increasing the amount of sugar while actively lobbying against any attempts to regulate marketing their sugary products to kids. Here is an idea...get rid of the sugary cereals and sugary milk entirely and f…

Bacon and eggs? Jesus... Considering you are advocating for removing unhealthy foods, surely you could have mentioned something actually healthy.

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Post by otabdeveloper2 » Wed, Jan 02, 2019, 3:39 PM UTC

z_open wrote: post #20

will_brown wrote: post #8

All this money, time and effort in an attempt to market new low sugar cereals , these are the same company’s who: 1. Have been marketing their product as part of a balanced breakfast for decades, and 2. Continued increasing the amount of sugar while actively lobbying against any attempts to regulate marketing their sugary products to kids. Here is an idea...get rid of the sugary cereals and sugary milk entirely and f…

You want them to get a heart attack instead? Lots of cultures have good breakfast that don't rely on sugar or cholesterol. Look to the Mediterranean/Middle East/Central Asia/Far East.

I'm pretty sure that the idea that cholesterol causes heart attacks is fake news.