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Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Post by tracker1 » Wed, Jan 02, 2019, 3:40 PM UTC

Accacin wrote: post #22

will_brown wrote: post #8

All this money, time and effort in an attempt to market new low sugar cereals , these are the same company’s who: 1. Have been marketing their product as part of a balanced breakfast for decades, and 2. Continued increasing the amount of sugar while actively lobbying against any attempts to regulate marketing their sugary products to kids. Here is an idea...get rid of the sugary cereals and sugary milk entirely and f…

I noticed in the US the milk seemed a lot sweeter than what I'm used to. Then again I'm all about Museli and mainly eaten with soya milk, seems reasonably healthy and quick and easy.

In general, carbs break down into glucose for consumption... which isn't the worst thing. Fructose (about half, or more, of most natural sugars) is only able to be processed by the liver and usually in excess of what can be metabolized meaning a build up of fatty liver. This has other side effects leading to metabolic syndrome/diabetes/heart-disease.

A big issue is that many people eating low fat actually don't get enough protein or especially fat. Most natural sources of protein (particularly meat) come with around 0.5g of fat per 1g of protein. Lean sources are quite a bit lower. Without enough fat, many will see issues with their gal bladder over time. There's also more insulin response to protein without accompanying fat.

Another issue is refined vegetable oils have more linoleic acid, which leads to more carb absorption in general.

In general, most people are now getting too much carbohydrate, often not enough protein, and almost always not enough fat.

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Post by zrail » Wed, Jan 02, 2019, 3:40 PM UTC

flareback wrote: post #19

will_brown wrote: post #8

All this money, time and effort in an attempt to market new low sugar cereals , these are the same company’s who: 1. Have been marketing their product as part of a balanced breakfast for decades, and 2. Continued increasing the amount of sugar while actively lobbying against any attempts to regulate marketing their sugary products to kids. Here is an idea...get rid of the sugary cereals and sugary milk entirely and f…

I love the idea of having bacon and eggs for breakfast in the morning. The reality is though that bacon and eggs take time and effort while pouring a bowl of cereal is quick and easy.

It takes me five minutes to fry two eggs in the morning, including washing the pan. While the eggs are frying I drop some toast in the toaster.

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Post by esotericn » Wed, Jan 02, 2019, 3:40 PM UTC

flareback wrote: post #19

will_brown wrote: post #8

All this money, time and effort in an attempt to market new low sugar cereals , these are the same company’s who: 1. Have been marketing their product as part of a balanced breakfast for decades, and 2. Continued increasing the amount of sugar while actively lobbying against any attempts to regulate marketing their sugary products to kids. Here is an idea...get rid of the sugary cereals and sugary milk entirely and f…

I love the idea of having bacon and eggs for breakfast in the morning. The reality is though that bacon and eggs take time and effort while pouring a bowl of cereal is quick and easy.

It takes me approx 5 minutes to fry an egg and clean the pan.

I'll be 5 minutes later to work rather than eat non-food.

It's quicker and more efficent to stay in bed than it is to go to work. What of it?

Life is to be lived.

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Post by danharaj » Wed, Jan 02, 2019, 3:40 PM UTC

farresito wrote: post #29

will_brown wrote: post #8

All this money, time and effort in an attempt to market new low sugar cereals , these are the same company’s who: 1. Have been marketing their product as part of a balanced breakfast for decades, and 2. Continued increasing the amount of sugar while actively lobbying against any attempts to regulate marketing their sugary products to kids. Here is an idea...get rid of the sugary cereals and sugary milk entirely and f…

Bacon and eggs? Jesus... Considering you are advocating for removing unhealthy foods, surely you could have mentioned something actually healthy.

There's nothing wrong with bacon and eggs. A vegetable would be nice tho.

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Post by snazz » Wed, Jan 02, 2019, 3:41 PM UTC

will_brown wrote: post #26

ariehkovler wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> get rid of the sugary cereals and sugary milk It took me a long time to realise that milk was sugary. I'd grown up worrying about the fat content of milk, but all milk, whether full fat or skimmed, has like 5g of sugar per 100ml, a pretty similar sugar content to Gatorade. We know milk has lactose but we don't usually think of lactose as a sugar like we do with sucrose or fructose.

I may be wrong but I think many milks add sucrose. The other thing is if you don’t buy organic milk then your milk is also loaded with the antibiotics that we give to dairy cows which attaches to the fat in the milk. So a good rule is if you go organic get whole milk (because it is a good source of fat) but if you buy regular milk get skim (to avoid some of the antibiotics).

I’ve noticed that many products in the US now have an “added sugars” section under the sugars section in the nutritional labels. It always seems to be 0g in all of the milk bottles and cartons I’ve seen, but I’m pretty particular on my milk so I might not have seen the average kind that most people get.

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Post by JumpCrisscross » Wed, Jan 02, 2019, 3:41 PM UTC

z_open wrote: post #20

will_brown wrote: post #8

All this money, time and effort in an attempt to market new low sugar cereals , these are the same company’s who: 1. Have been marketing their product as part of a balanced breakfast for decades, and 2. Continued increasing the amount of sugar while actively lobbying against any attempts to regulate marketing their sugary products to kids. Here is an idea...get rid of the sugary cereals and sugary milk entirely and f…

You want them to get a heart attack instead? Lots of cultures have good breakfast that don't rely on sugar or cholesterol. Look to the Mediterranean/Middle East/Central Asia/Far East.

OP’s point is even bacon and eggs is healthier than boxed cereal. (My preferred breakfast is miso soup.)

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Post by will_brown » Wed, Jan 02, 2019, 3:41 PM UTC

flareback wrote: post #19

will_brown wrote: post #8

All this money, time and effort in an attempt to market new low sugar cereals , these are the same company’s who: 1. Have been marketing their product as part of a balanced breakfast for decades, and 2. Continued increasing the amount of sugar while actively lobbying against any attempts to regulate marketing their sugary products to kids. Here is an idea...get rid of the sugary cereals and sugary milk entirely and f…

I love the idea of having bacon and eggs for breakfast in the morning. The reality is though that bacon and eggs take time and effort while pouring a bowl of cereal is quick and easy.

>The reality is though that bacon and eggs take time and effort

Yes, the reality is that children take time and effort.

But if parents can’t spare 15 minutes to invest in their kids health and wellness and instead opt for convince at the cost of priming their bodies for obesity, fatty liver disease and type2...there are other issues to consider.

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Post by testvox » Wed, Jan 02, 2019, 3:41 PM UTC

will_brown wrote: post #26

ariehkovler wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> get rid of the sugary cereals and sugary milk It took me a long time to realise that milk was sugary. I'd grown up worrying about the fat content of milk, but all milk, whether full fat or skimmed, has like 5g of sugar per 100ml, a pretty similar sugar content to Gatorade. We know milk has lactose but we don't usually think of lactose as a sugar like we do with sucrose or fructose.

I may be wrong but I think many milks add sucrose. The other thing is if you don’t buy organic milk then your milk is also loaded with the antibiotics that we give to dairy cows which attaches to the fat in the milk. So a good rule is if you go organic get whole milk (because it is a good source of fat) but if you buy regular milk get skim (to avoid some of the antibiotics).

I haven't seen this personally, but people should know how modern milk is made. First all the parts are separated (milk proteins, fat, lactose) then reconstituted in different proportions for each type of milk. I've noticed that low fat milk generally has the same caloric content as high fat milk, they just add in more lactose in place of the missing fat (I presume to ensure the milk doesn't taste gross and watery).

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Post by neom » Wed, Jan 02, 2019, 3:42 PM UTC

Very grateful to my parents for not allowing me sugar added foods when I was a kid, even though I thought it was so lame and had the worst packed lunch out of my friends. I actually ended up being 300lbs in my late teens early 20s because all I did was IRC all day. That said, it didn't take much effort to get to the 150/160 I am today. I'm not sure if it's correlated but coincidently I can't stand anything sweet as an adult.

Re: Average 10-year-old has eaten 18 years' worth of sugar

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Post by voidpointercast » Wed, Jan 02, 2019, 3:43 PM UTC

mikestew wrote: post #12

jgoewert wrote: post #2

Unpopular opinion, but part of the problem is that stupid people are more likely to have kids, and especially many kids. Stupid people become stupid parents.

Unpopular opinion because it’s a tired, facile one. Oh, look, someone else watched the opening scene to Idiocracy , too. Let us look down on others together with our common trope! Problem is, it doesn’t really answer any questions or produce any useful new models. It was good for a laugh ten years ago, though. Here’s something that’ll bake your noodle: what if you’re not as clever as you think you are, and due to the…

>Here’s something that’ll bake your noodle: what if you’re not as clever as you think you are, and due to the DunkinDonuts-Keurig effect, you don’t know you’re one of the stupid ones?

This is actually something I'm constantly preoccupied with. I've assumed the "Assume you're one of the stupid ones until proven otherwise" position.

That said, if I had some objective statement that I was somehow below average that would largely suck.