Earlier quoted context omitted.
This not a trial, in terms of what a real trial should be. It is a deliberate wedge strategy that has been employed at least once in the UK before. (I couldn’t find a source right now, will report back when I can.) The goal is to be able to say to higher powers that «we reached out to the public and they didn’t mind.» And then it’s made permanent.
I smell a market for facial prosthetics (good ones) and sunglasses. Maybe large hats.
Central Londoners to be subjected to facial recognition test this week
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#52> According to the police, these trials ... "will be used overtly with a clear uniformed presence and information leaflets will be disseminated to the public," This line really creeps me out. Essentially: "But it's OK, because we're being very clear about what we are doing, handing out leaflets and wearing our uniforms so you can trust us." If these trials are successful - or, for that matter, if they are not - can w…
make no mistake, the rest of the world's leaders don't see China as a dystopian hellhole, they see it as a proof of concept. The only way to stop this is now, to strike hard and reject it entirely. Because once it's fully implemented any future rebellions will be able to be snuffed out in their infancy.
IE: Government sees a group of people visiting suspicious websites, they use phone location tracking to see that a small group is meeting up in person, government then uses facial recognition to track them 24/7 and eventually finds an excuse to arrest them before the movement can grow
Although I doubt people will do anything, we're too comfortable and they'll simply boil us like frogs, pushing privacy rights back inch by inch until people finally realize they are against the edge of a cliff
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
This not a trial, in terms of what a real trial should be. It is a deliberate wedge strategy that has been employed at least once in the UK before. (I couldn’t find a source right now, will report back when I can.) The goal is to be able to say to higher powers that «we reached out to the public and they didn’t mind.» And then it’s made permanent.
I smell a market for facial prosthetics (good ones) and sunglasses. Maybe large hats.
They'll simply pass a law making disguises/obfuscation illegal in public.
Because why would anybody who's not a criminal or up to no good have any issue with the tracking, right?
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#54I prey we can get facial recognition to the public and we can start publicly tracking politicians and they can own their political decision anywhere they go. Have a CEO that wears fur coats, well facial recognition now knows he eats at starbucks every friday lets go there then and protest. A corrupt politician, oh facial recognition detects them at a conference lets go interrupt it. There will be no hiding in the fut…
Do you think that anyone could run SQL queries on that database? Only government people will have access to it, the politicians can add a new law to exclude themselves from the database searches.
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's not really that relevant after 29 March 2019.
GDPR will still apply, at least for a while - https://www.itpro.co.uk/policy-legislation/31772/gdpr-and-br... Plus it'll still apply to European citizens, won't it? And I'm reasonably sure there's more than a non-zero number of those in Central London on any given day.
Gdpr is for persons in the union, not citizens, and especially not citizens while abroad.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
I smell a market for facial prosthetics (good ones) and sunglasses. Maybe large hats.
They'll simply pass a law making disguises/obfuscation illegal in public. Because why would anybody who's not a criminal or up to no good have any issue with the tracking, right?
I'm sure that will sit well with Londons large orthodox muslim community.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
GDPR will still apply, at least for a while - https://www.itpro.co.uk/policy-legislation/31772/gdpr-and-br... Plus it'll still apply to European citizens, won't it? And I'm reasonably sure there's more than a non-zero number of those in Central London on any given day.
Gdpr is for persons in the union, not citizens, and especially not citizens while abroad.
I'm confused by this comment. Can you clarify?
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#58Can't help but think that if this was done in beijing or shanghai, the headline would be far more ominous. For all the politically motivated attacks on facebook and tech by politicians ( especially the british and their commonwealth ones ), they sure do love spying on their own citizens. And for all the talk about dystopian china, it is britain that is leading the world on spying on its citizens and using an authorit…
What "social credit" system does the UK have? We don't even have identity cards...
We have driving licences and passports which are used as such. Not compulsory but pretty much essential unless you want to live off the grid for all your life.
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#59They mentioned it was used in South Wales to assure us it's been used before, but failed to mention that 92% were false positives. https://futurism.com/welsh-police-face-scanning-software-inc...
It doesn't matter that there are so many false positives if the intent is simply to have a chilling effect.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Easy enough via "processing is necessary in order to protect the vital interests of the data subject or of another natural person", or "processing is necessary for the performance of a task carried out in the public interest or in the exercise of official authority vested in the controller", and such.
> "processing is necessary in order to protect the vital interests of the data subject or of another natural person" ICO says "The processing must be necessary. If you can reasonably protect the person’s vital interests in another less intrusive way, this basis will not apply." which cuts out that excuse because, since I'm not dead and the majority of Londoners are also not dead, the police seem to be "reasonably pro…
Exactly how much power does the ICO have over the Met?