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Central Londoners to be subjected to facial recognition test this week

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Re: Central Londoners to be subjected to facial recognition test this week

#31

How does this fit into GDPR? I can't see any reasonable claim that they need this personal data (and what's more personal than my face?) for processing purposes.

Easy enough via "processing is necessary in order to protect the vital interests of the data subject or of another natural person", or "processing is necessary for the performance of a task carried out in the public interest or in the exercise of official authority vested in the controller", and such.

Re: Central Londoners to be subjected to facial recognition test this week

#32

> According to the police, these trials ... "will be used overtly with a clear uniformed presence and information leaflets will be disseminated to the public," This line really creeps me out. Essentially: "But it's OK, because we're being very clear about what we are doing, handing out leaflets and wearing our uniforms so you can trust us." If these trials are successful - or, for that matter, if they are not - can w…

This not a trial, in terms of what a real trial should be. It is a deliberate wedge strategy that has been employed at least once in the UK before. (I couldn’t find a source right now, will report back when I can.) The goal is to be able to say to higher powers that «we reached out to the public and they didn’t mind.» And then it’s made permanent.

I smell a market for facial prosthetics (good ones) and sunglasses. Maybe large hats.

Re: Central Londoners to be subjected to facial recognition test this week

#33
post #9

Many premises already don't permit entry if you wear a face ski mask (balaclava) or a motorbike helmet. I wonder how long until it's illegal to simply walk down the street wearing either. Even if it's not actually illegal, I'm certain it won't be long before the Police stop and detain anyone that does, because obviously you have something to hide - your face!

They will never be able to outlaw "adversarial" make-up, specially designed so that the bearer is identified as another person.

Today in London, Richard Nixon was seen at 37 coffee shops, 18 shoe shops, and even buying a Lambo.

Re: Central Londoners to be subjected to facial recognition test this week

#34
post #23

They mentioned it was used in South Wales to assure us it's been used before, but failed to mention that 92% were false positives. https://futurism.com/welsh-police-face-scanning-software-inc...

I'd love to know how that compares to the false-negative stats...

Re: Central Londoners to be subjected to facial recognition test this week

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This not a trial, in terms of what a real trial should be. It is a deliberate wedge strategy that has been employed at least once in the UK before. (I couldn’t find a source right now, will report back when I can.) The goal is to be able to say to higher powers that «we reached out to the public and they didn’t mind.» And then it’s made permanent.

I smell a market for facial prosthetics (good ones) and sunglasses. Maybe large hats.

How about the old classic -- a Groucho Marx moustache and a pair of glasses? ;)

Or maybe a Theresa May paper mask...

Re: Central Londoners to be subjected to facial recognition test this week

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This not a trial, in terms of what a real trial should be. It is a deliberate wedge strategy that has been employed at least once in the UK before. (I couldn’t find a source right now, will report back when I can.) The goal is to be able to say to higher powers that «we reached out to the public and they didn’t mind.» And then it’s made permanent.

I smell a market for facial prosthetics (good ones) and sunglasses. Maybe large hats.

Or paper bags.

Re: Central Londoners to be subjected to facial recognition test this week

#37
post #24

I prey we can get facial recognition to the public and we can start publicly tracking politicians and they can own their political decision anywhere they go. Have a CEO that wears fur coats, well facial recognition now knows he eats at starbucks every friday lets go there then and protest. A corrupt politician, oh facial recognition detects them at a conference lets go interrupt it. There will be no hiding in the fut…

"This morning the Political Privacy Act was rushed through. MPs are now exempt from all face-recognition systems. The vote was unanimous..."

Re: Central Londoners to be subjected to facial recognition test this week

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They will never be able to outlaw "adversarial" make-up, specially designed so that the bearer is identified as another person.

Today in London, Richard Nixon was seen at 37 coffee shops, 18 shoe shops, and even buying a Lambo.

at the same time :)

Re: Central Londoners to be subjected to facial recognition test this week

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What "social credit" system does the UK have? We don't even have identity cards...

Maybe gp is referring to the extremely classist nature of UK culture? One of my best friends who got his Bachelors in the US but then did his masters at Cambridge explained to me that egalitarianism basically doesn't exist in reality there. They denied him his application for PhD, while the professor who read it stole his idea and made it his own... and this was to a dual American/British citizen. When I visited, I w…

Bad luck - sounds like your friend ran into the Bullingdon Club on a night out....

Very little of the UK is like that and I'm pretty sure I could find equivalent examples in the US!

Re: Central Londoners to be subjected to facial recognition test this week

#40
post #2

The best way to discourage its use at this point is via the courts. Declare facial recognition inadmissible, and its use will drop off. Not a fan of bench legislation, but keeping this out of widespread use is really, really important.

> Declare facial recognition inadmissible

Does England do that?

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