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Central Londoners to be subjected to facial recognition test this week

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Re: Central Londoners to be subjected to facial recognition test this week

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onion2k wrote: post #13
mises wrote: post #2

The best way to discourage its use at this point is via the courts. Declare facial recognition inadmissible, and its use will drop off. Not a fan of bench legislation, but keeping this out of widespread use is really, really important.

Declare facial recognition inadmissible, and its use will drop off. The police are well aware of this, and consequently won't use facial recognition data as evidence in criminal cases. That won't stop them using the data to knock on the doors of every person who matched (for some level of confidence) a given facial profile though.

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Post by enriquto »

grecy wrote: post #9

Many premises already don't permit entry if you wear a face ski mask (balaclava) or a motorbike helmet. I wonder how long until it's illegal to simply walk down the street wearing either. Even if it's not actually illegal, I'm certain it won't be long before the Police stop and detain anyone that does, because obviously you have something to hide - your face!

They will never be able to outlaw "adversarial" make-up, specially designed so that the bearer is identified as another person.

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Post by 14 »

I prey we can get facial recognition to the public and we can start publicly tracking politicians and they can own their political decision anywhere they go. Have a CEO that wears fur coats, well facial recognition now knows he eats at starbucks every friday lets go there then and protest. A corrupt politician, oh facial recognition detects them at a conference lets go interrupt it. There will be no hiding in the future and I truly hope this applies to the elite as well. They have more to lose with being tracked then I do.

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Post by arminiusreturns »

arethuza wrote: post #17
porpoisely wrote: post #14

Can't help but think that if this was done in beijing or shanghai, the headline would be far more ominous. For all the politically motivated attacks on facebook and tech by politicians ( especially the british and their commonwealth ones ), they sure do love spying on their own citizens. And for all the talk about dystopian china, it is britain that is leading the world on spying on its citizens and using an authorit…

What "social credit" system does the UK have? We don't even have identity cards...

Maybe gp is referring to the extremely classist nature of UK culture? One of my best friends who got his Bachelors in the US but then did his masters at Cambridge explained to me that egalitarianism basically doesn't exist in reality there. They denied him his application for PhD, while the professor who read it stole his idea and made it his own... and this was to a dual American/British citizen. When I visited, I was taken aback at how snobby and disdainful of the plebs people at Oxford were. To me as an American who had made British military friends during the war that seemed awesome, it was really shocking how dystopian the UK was, and not just the massive government surveillance, (for example, imsi catching in The City stole my GPS signal for a few hours at one point) it felt much more like a thin veneer over oligarchical neofuedalism even the plebs participated in. There may not be an official social credit system (yet), but Brits are good at knowing it without the card.

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Post by newsgremlin »

akerro wrote: post #23

They mentioned it was used in South Wales to assure us it's been used before, but failed to mention that 92% were false positives. https://futurism.com/welsh-police-face-scanning-software-inc...

Wouldn't even trust SWP to catch a cold.

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Post by yaps8 »

14 wrote: post #24

I prey we can get facial recognition to the public and we can start publicly tracking politicians and they can own their political decision anywhere they go. Have a CEO that wears fur coats, well facial recognition now knows he eats at starbucks every friday lets go there then and protest. A corrupt politician, oh facial recognition detects them at a conference lets go interrupt it. There will be no hiding in the fut…

This will not happen. Mind you, they have the right to privacy!

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Post by Balero »

arminiusreturns wrote: post #25
arethuza wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What "social credit" system does the UK have? We don't even have identity cards...

Maybe gp is referring to the extremely classist nature of UK culture? One of my best friends who got his Bachelors in the US but then did his masters at Cambridge explained to me that egalitarianism basically doesn't exist in reality there. They denied him his application for PhD, while the professor who read it stole his idea and made it his own... and this was to a dual American/British citizen. When I visited, I w…

It sounds like you met a bunch of arseholes tbh. Sorry about them. We are not all like that.

The only people who I have experience with who are overly classist, tend to be a bit older (50+) and consider themselves above other people, and are as mentioned arseholes. The vast majority of people think this whole thing is old fashioned, out of date, and disgusting. It is not something that people (at least myself, and the people I know) overtly come into contact with on a daily basis.

This is not to say things are perfect, or that there are not people like this. But that modern Britain is not, aside from some annoying exceptions, like this.

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