Central Londoners to be subjected to facial recognition test this week
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Re: Central Londoners to be subjected to facial recognition test this week
#2The best way to discourage its use at this point is via the courts. Declare facial recognition inadmissible, and its use will drop off. Not a fan of bench legislation, but keeping this out of widespread use is really, really important.
Re: Central Londoners to be subjected to facial recognition test this week
#3The best way to discourage its use at this point is via the courts. Declare facial recognition inadmissible, and its use will drop off. Not a fan of bench legislation, but keeping this out of widespread use is really, really important.
Will you go ahead and declare it for us?
Re: Central Londoners to be subjected to facial recognition test this week
#4I wonder if there's a demonstrable correlation between level of police funding and support for such initiatives. In the UK's public sector there is definitely a strong drive for automation, but it does kind of coincide with austerity and drastic cuts in police services.
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#5> According to the police, these trials ... "will be used overtly with a clear uniformed presence and information leaflets will be disseminated to the public,"
This line really creeps me out. Essentially: "But it's OK, because we're being very clear about what we are doing, handing out leaflets and wearing our uniforms so you can trust us."
If these trials are successful - or, for that matter, if they are not - can we assume that they will drop all of that facade at the earliest opportunity in favour of silent and ubiquitous rollout?
Who will be wearing uniforms and handing out fliers in 1, 2 or 5 years, when facial recognition surveillance technology operates behind every one of the thousands of surveillance cameras that capture our faces and movements every single day?
Re: Central Londoners to be subjected to facial recognition test this week
#6The best way to discourage its use at this point is via the courts. Declare facial recognition inadmissible, and its use will drop off. Not a fan of bench legislation, but keeping this out of widespread use is really, really important.
>Declare facial recognition inadmissible, and its use will drop off.
no, they will just use it for parallel construction instead
Re: Central Londoners to be subjected to facial recognition test this week
#7The best way to discourage its use at this point is via the courts. Declare facial recognition inadmissible, and its use will drop off. Not a fan of bench legislation, but keeping this out of widespread use is really, really important.
We are long past the point of discourage its use. The move now should be to make sure it is properly regulated so that retention duration is public and verifiable. That acting off the images has follow a well defined legal process. Most of it will be forensic in nature and the benefits of the technology far outweigh the horrors that many claim will come. Here's a hint, the governments of this world have already committed gross violations of human rights of the worst kind for centuries, this isn't going to change that for the worse.
If anything a trusted system will put the authorities on their toes too. It will provide the ability to not only track those who committed a crime but those in need of emergency services. It will even capture those who enforce the laws. Yes there will be real time applications of this tech in the near future and that is why those who can create this software should damn well be working to make sure it does work and is not easily thwarted by those in power or abused by them. Its going to happen, make sure if you can participate you do so that the wolves don't have free run of the hen house.
So make it work, make it public, make it obvious, regulate it, and regulate those who employ it. That is where we are now. If we keep running from it we give other people the opportunity to do wrong with it
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#8First it's optional, and then it won't be. Do people from UK realize that the government, intelligence agencies, and the police see no end in sight for this type of (ab)use of surveillance and censorship technology?
To me at least it has seemed obvious for some time that the UK government wants to emulate China in this regard. So they see China as a "role model" to be followed. I mean GCHQ has even proposed a Great British Firewall for crying out loud. But like with the porn filter, they will promise to block only the "really bad stuff" with it -- at first.
Both "democratic" and undemocratic governments of the world have woken up to the fact that the internet gives people "too much freedom", so they are all working to restrict that freedom, with all sorts of "plausible justifications".
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#9Many premises already don't permit entry if you wear a face ski mask (balaclava) or a motorbike helmet.
I wonder how long until it's illegal to simply walk down the street wearing either.
Even if it's not actually illegal, I'm certain it won't be long before the Police stop and detain anyone that does, because obviously you have something to hide - your face!
Re: Central Londoners to be subjected to facial recognition test this week
#10The best way to discourage its use at this point is via the courts. Declare facial recognition inadmissible, and its use will drop off. Not a fan of bench legislation, but keeping this out of widespread use is really, really important.
We are long past the point of discourage its use. The move now should be to make sure it is properly regulated so that retention duration is public and verifiable. That acting off the images has follow a well defined legal process. Most of it will be forensic in nature and the benefits of the technology far outweigh the horrors that many claim will come. Here's a hint, the governments of this world have already commi…
No. I don't care how long they're keeping it.
The problem is that governments have databases of citizens. The problem of governments is that they want to blow a hole in previous ideas of "assumption of privacy".
Lots of people around the world have trusted governments in the past. Many of them are dead.
If you haven't guessed, I don't trust the government. But I think that's with good reason. I don't believe any regulation can solve this problem. The government itself should regulate its own use of something? Like that's worked before.
Keep this away from me. My concern is only secondarily that someone using my data to run ads. My concern is primarily that government should never have access to such a tool.