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Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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Post by AsyncAwait »

austincheney wrote: post #428
_0w8t wrote: post #406

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Saudi Arabia is known to finance Wahhabism groups around the world, its books for children say it is ok to kill non-Muslims and even Muslims of the “wrong kind”, the terorist behind 9/1/1 were from the country, ISIS got its money from SA and the country is engaged in mayor war in the Middle East. Yet SA is a friend of US and many western countries.

I don't believe this thread is about Saudi Arabia.

So does imposing sanctions have any consistent basis or framework in the U.S? I believe that is very relevant here, because if not, it's basically being a bully.

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Post by gonvaled »

chopin wrote: post #482
AndrewUnmuted wrote: post #431

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You think THIS proves the US is not a trustworthy nation? Why choose to ignore the last 100+ years of the US's backstory and focus on this rather minor setback to make such a bold statement? I would imagine any amount of trust we had left was entirely exhausted more than 40 years ago, during the Nixon shock [0] and Exorbitant privilege [1]. Surely, you realize the US earns its status on the global stage via its viole…

Trust is lost in buckets, and earned in drops. The US will learn this the hard way. There's never been a discussion about a European army, now it crops up, for example. Even if the next administration is deemed trustworthy what's with the one coming after that?

AND pushing for international clearing in Euros, which is much more damaging for the interests of the US.

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Post by shanghaiaway »

nappy wrote: post #422
dillondoyle wrote: post #359

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Plus the arrested party is the daughter of the founder; I can't separate that fact when trying to infer intention here. I definitely feel anxious..

>>>Meng, one of the vice chairs on the company’s board and the daughter of company founder Ren Zhengfei, was arrested on Dec. 1 at the request of U.S. authorities and a court hearing has been set for Friday, a Canadian Justice Department spokesman said. Trump and Xi had dined in Argentina on Dec. 1 at the G20 summit. She works for the company in question.

That's obvious to everyone but you. It's literally the headline.

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Post by gonvaled »

sbov wrote: post #433
gonvaled wrote: post #377

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What I read from this is: "the US has a convoluted process, which nobody understands, in order to commit to international agreements". It seems everybody, including head of states, thought the US had agreed to the treaties, but they had not (?), because of a technicality. I assume these technicalities can be applied to anything, any time, in order to justify pulling out of international agreements. Worse, instead of…

If you find requiring the president to sign and congress to approve a treaty convoluted, what DON'T you find convoluted? Putting together a peanut butter and jelly sandwich is more conceptually complex, but I'm pretty sure that doesn't baffle international leaders, or you.

I don't find convoluted when you say that you take part into an international agreement, and then you stick to your word.

You expect the whole world to be familiar with the intricacies of the US Government. I assume that you have taken the same interest in familiarizing yourself with the technicalities of the Serbian government agreeing to international treaties.

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Post by matt4077 »

panarky wrote: post #334
mtw wrote: post #302

Many are lost in technicalities here, if Canada has the right to arrest a businesswoman, if the US can stop a foreign company to do business with another country. Who cares? I'm partial to Iran because a multi-lateral treaty was signed. Iran stopped nuclear enrichment. In exchange, western countries pledged to provide economic relief and stop sanctions. It is said that Iran has been developing various weapons, but th…

Yes, the US was wrong to abandon the nuclear deal with Iran. But that's not the whole story with the Huawei CFO arrest. China and their state-owned and state-controlled companies are stealing trade secrets and military technology instead of developing it on their own. Chinese companies enjoy open access to Western markets, but Western companies are highly restricted in their access to Chinese markets. If Huawei illeg…

You seem to suggest using a political move you disagree with to take hostages to force China to act on an entirely unrelated set of grievances.

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Post by Sacho »

m00nlight wrote: post #388

Is Canada becoming little brother of US?

What do you mean by "becoming"? The extradition treaty that the US most likely invoked in this case has been in force for almost 50 years.

https://www.oas.org/juridico/mla/en/traites/en_traites-ext-c...

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Post by camillomiller »

huahaiy wrote: post #411

Coincidentally, a Stanford Chinese American scientist, Prof. Shoucheng Zhang ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoucheng_Zhang ), who discovered the Quantum Spin Hall effect that plays a big part in the recent Intel announcement of the next generation of chip design, was found dead on Stanford campus on Dec. 1st. Before he's death, Prof. Zhang went together with Huawei's CFO to attend a dinner in Argentina on Dec. 1st.…

Sources about this? Can't find anything that corroborates what you're saying about them being at the G20

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Post by rangibaby »

nappy wrote: post #427
farseer wrote: post #375

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They arrested the founder's daughter! I think it would be a good idea for American execs in China to take a long vacation home until this cools down. No one wants to become collateral damage between a great power rivalry.

Meng Wanzhou is a the CFO of Huawei[0] [0] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-huawei/huawei-f...

She’s both

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Post by flyinglizard »

anad7 wrote: post #414
mtw wrote: post #302

Many are lost in technicalities here, if Canada has the right to arrest a businesswoman, if the US can stop a foreign company to do business with another country. Who cares? I'm partial to Iran because a multi-lateral treaty was signed. Iran stopped nuclear enrichment. In exchange, western countries pledged to provide economic relief and stop sanctions. It is said that Iran has been developing various weapons, but th…

> If you want peace, you have to impose sanctions on Saudi Arabia as well. Funny how Israel never gets mentioned by anyone!

That’s probably because Israel is a part of the Western world and nobody in their right mind is concerned about it becoming a military threat or sponsoring radical Islamists.
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