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Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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No problem USA! Go back on the Iran deal, go back on the Paris climate deal, go back on TPP. Just don't expect that anyone believes you anymore.

You think THIS proves the US is not a trustworthy nation? Why choose to ignore the last 100+ years of the US's backstory and focus on this rather minor setback to make such a bold statement? I would imagine any amount of trust we had left was entirely exhausted more than 40 years ago, during the Nixon shock [0] and Exorbitant privilege [1]. Surely, you realize the US earns its status on the global stage via its viole…

Trust is lost in buckets, and earned in drops. The US will learn this the hard way. There's never been a discussion about a European army, now it crops up, for example.

Even if the next administration is deemed trustworthy what's with the one coming after that?

Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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I have mixed feelings about this rule because it genuinely feels like the majority of comments come from people who aren't reading most of the article. For example, this article here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18476805 ...is just dominated by people that didn't read to the end. The top complaint is treating the article as if it isn't facetious (it is.) That does get very frustrating. I understand the premi…

The overlooked piece wasn't at the end. It was after the end, hidden behind a little quiz. Sarcasm is annoying, and prone to misinterpretation. That's not the fault of the reader who took the author at face value.

Your response nitpicks the particular example but what about the general phenomenon? Are you saying there are next to no instances of it?

Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/a3hied/huawei_de... Keep in mind that US sanctions against foreign companies doing business with Iran are opposed by: The United Nations International Court of Justice, which ordered the US to withdraw sanctions, to which the US responded by pulling out of international agreements. The European Union, which has attempted to block its companies from complying with US sanctio…

The author of this comment has a history of apologizing for Chinese crimes: >>LOL, kill thousands of its own citizens in protests? The Chinese government never did that (even the famous tank man was unharmed and was not arrested), the truth is, many soldiers got killed because they were not allowed to fire at citizens. Even the Chinese government did kill its own citizen they learnt from the US (1932 Bonus Army, 1970…

The fact that the parent is pro-chinese is pretty clear, I don't see what digging into their post history adds to the discussion, especially since in this case it's tangential at best.

Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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USA will go to a foreign country and topple their government for violating US business interests (not laws). Being an American might be OK, but America isn't a beacon for citizens of other countries.

> but America isn't a beacon for citizens of other countries. “Most of all, America passes the critical gate test. Open the gate and see where people go — in or out. This is still the country people flock to.” — George Will, 1992 “We are the ally of the US not because they are powerful, but because we share their values. I am not surprised by anti-Americanism; but it is a foolish indulgence. For all their faults and…

When the Roman Empire found Jesus and slowly devolved into the Roman Catholic Church over the next thousand years, its "war on paganism" spread throughout Europe and Asia, with a death toll that is hard to estimate, but easily in the millions if you add up all the crusades and inquisitions.

Unsurprisingly, many pagans chose to convert to Christianity, rather than be murdered on the spot.

So maybe we can stop using this word "beacon", and use something more appropriate. How about "fortress"?

Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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No Canada is arresting on behalf of US. On the contrary, Huawei is building 5g infra for Canada. > Violating sanctions is a criminal offense under U.S. and Canadian law. Just because its legal does not mean there wont be an aggressive reaction[1]. China will probably respond with force. Huawei with market exit. Then there are other actors who would respond in there own way we would never know about. US probably going…

> Do you want to hurt US market/USD ? Because thats what use of your justifications will do. I would think that human rights, morals, and ideals of liberty and freedom are more important than a few percentages of GDP growth.

And that's where you would be wrong. HN is a lot more naive than I would have expected

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And you think it’s just of US to sell weapons to a authoritarian murderous regime like SA? Previously Saddam in Iraq? And also the Afghan fundamentalists during Russian and Afghanistan war? Eventually US went to war with both Iraq and Afghanistan with the same leadership they supported earlier. The Shia militias your talking about is no better nor worse than the kind of people both US and SA and other gulf countries…

My understanding is that the topic of this subthread is whether there is evidence to support the idea that Iran has done something for which sanctions are appropriate. I think there is sufficient evidence of that. If you want to debate whether the U.S. should sell arms to Saudi Arabia, I think that is a different topic.

I think the debate is whether you think that Iran has done something that warrants the sanctions and if yes, whether you think sanctions should also be imposed on Saudi Arabia, who has unquestionably done much worse, or is this not an objective standard that the U.S. follows and only select 'rouge' states fall under them, whereas other rouge states do not, as long as they maintain sufficient trading relationships?

Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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Could someone explain what laws were broken ? I can't understand what's the matter if a foreign national does trade with Iran ? And its kind of suspicious that Huawei, a telecom giant , is the prime target given how much lobbying is done by telecom companies in USA.

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Coincidentally, a Stanford Chinese American scientist, Prof. Shoucheng Zhang ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoucheng_Zhang ), who discovered the Quantum Spin Hall effect that plays a big part in the recent Intel announcement of the next generation of chip design, was found dead on Stanford campus on Dec. 1st. Before he's death, Prof. Zhang went together with Huawei's CFO to attend a dinner in Argentina on Dec. 1st.…

There is no way for all the events you prescribed to happen in one day across four different countries. I'm sorry to hear the loss of Prof. Zhang, however I suspect that his death may have had something to do with his heavy investment in some questionable blockchain startups.

>however I suspect that his death may have had something to do with his heavy investment in some questionable blockchain startups

Why do you suspect that?

Re: Canada has arrested Huawei’s global chief financial officer in Vancouver

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I have no doubt this has a lot to do with two super powers trying very hard to flex their muscles, both trying to project a position of strength.

However, I don't think China was helping it's cause when a month ago it decided to arrest the Interpol chief, only to have that chief released a few hours latter.

Throw in that mix a crazy Putin itching for war in the Ukraine and we have three boys all trying very hard to take control the playground.

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