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> The vast vast majority of advertisers do not want to be displayed next to porn. This i dont understand though. Who wouldn't their product to be subconsciously associated with sexual satisfaction?
Subconscious is fine. It's overt porn they don't want.
Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th
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The solution is in societal morals and not in tech companies doing the censoring.
I posted this 1 day ago ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18583017 ) "YouTube, for example, can show advertisements for well known companies in videos about Anti-vaccination, far-right conspiracies, etc. without consequences. Why is that? Because all that happens in the privacy of your own computer. Usually any newspaper that publicly have printed such bullshit in their pages will be dead. Public will react to i…
How are they supposed to do that? You can't watch all of youtube. Even all of monetized youtube.
As for good journalism it either committed suicide or was killed off by management depending on perspective - either way it was quite a while ago. The actual newspaper conglomerated were doing the same damn thing before there was a Google - just look up a list of old moral panics. Look up Grunge slang hoax - they didn't even call a guy in Seattle to ask if they ever heard anything like the joke article to be sure it wasn't somebody taking the piss - and it was.
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I do not for a second advocate censorship. No content should be barred from uploading, that should be a retroactive process always, otherwise free speech is impossible. Gotta make mistakes to learn from the correction, and that is especially true for young people unfamiliar with the law. What I am against is machines feeding you more of what you just looked at. That's dangerous. It's too easy to end up VERY deep down…
Sure arguing against the algos is fine. THAT should be under discussion, not censorship. Censorship is an easy out because every fucking person on this board profits off of algos that drive people insane and unhealthy but censorship is an easy out to avoid confronting the real problem.
You hit the nail on the head there. Blacklists just don't work for users. They work for providers, but only for CYA. Users need tools to help them find good useful things.
This brings my morning routine to mind, which I explicitly designed to combat this feed poisoning that everyone is enduring. I literally hit the wikipedia random button every morning before I get out of bed. It's hooked into my morning alarm. I don't check feeds in the morning because I want to let my mind explore without someone influencing my focus, which helps me be more creative later in the day.
Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th
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My daughter at 12 got sucked into Tumblr and developed an eating disorder. I'm really sorry to hear this, having gone through a similar thing with a now ex-significant other. She too became very active in the segments of tumblr you identified and others (showed me many of them, some seemed like teenage angst in blog form, others were far more...worrisome), developed an eating disorder along with severe anxiety issues…
These online groups have the same advantage that many other cults have over their victims: they can re-try until they find enough buttons to press that work to bring out the vulnerable people. It's like negotiating against a much more experienced adversary: you're going to lose. The only way to deal with that stuff is not to get exposed to it in the first place. Something similar happens with advertising, there too t…
What does a "pro-ana" group gain from attracting new members ? Seems to me the dynamics are very different from a cult, where members are asked for money/work, and to bring new followers.
This is mostly just teens discovering fetishes and sharing them to feel better about it.
Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th
#345there are a lot of jokes being made along the lines of "there goes their userbase" but for me personally this is a huge loss. especially for those of us who have certain kinks, Tumblr to this day has been the only place to ever exist where women could safely express their sexuality. it allowed us to meet like-minded people, it allowed us to break the taboo and it ended the isolation that many of us felt. Tumblrs main…
> especially for those of us who have certain kinks, Tumblr to this day has been the only place to ever exist where women could safely express their sexuality.
Long before tumblr there were the alt.sex (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt.sex) newsgroups. There have always been dedicated sites for just about any kink since the web existed plus meta ones like fetlife.
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These online groups have the same advantage that many other cults have over their victims: they can re-try until they find enough buttons to press that work to bring out the vulnerable people. It's like negotiating against a much more experienced adversary: you're going to lose. The only way to deal with that stuff is not to get exposed to it in the first place. Something similar happens with advertising, there too t…
What does a "pro-ana" group gain from attracting new members ? Seems to me the dynamics are very different from a cult, where members are asked for money/work, and to bring new followers. This is mostly just teens discovering fetishes and sharing them to feel better about it.
To drag in new members in order to normalize their own behavior. The more people do it the more normal you feel.
Lots of cults are like that, not all of them have money or labor as their prime motivators.
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That's not how mental illness works.
The lack of critical thinking skills is a mental illness.
Some people are strong willed, some people are followers. Some people are deep thinkers, others are quick wits. Some people plan, and some only live in the moment. Everyone has different tools they use to navigate the world.
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What's your long term game plan with that? At some age, they'll get a device, are you just hoping for the best when that happens? Or "you pay for it, it's your problem" or what? We limit device time and I try to be as involved as I can, we ask them what they're doing, we try to play games with them, etc. Every day. We keep repeating the mantra about not talking to strangers online, and to tell us if they talk to you.…
>What's your long term game plan with that? That they're going to be more mature when that happens because they've demonstrated that they weren't ready just yet.
It is difficult to demonstrate your readiness when you've never been allowed to use it. Access + monitoring and support is a better strategy than hiding technology from your kid. Unless you are Amish, your kids are going to get dropped into the deep end.
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It’s not like 4chan is the first cult to start up and rope in otherwise functioning adults.
there are functioning adults that frequent 4chan. I think not.
There's a lot more to 4chan than /b/ (and the associated /pol/, /r9k/, /s4s/ crap). I haven't used /b/ in years (it stopped being funny around 100M get) but I still use some of the special-interest boards.
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"Presentation of healthy sexuality" is a pretty mixed up way to look at online pornography
This is literally the viewpoint that is the problem. Just because you don't like the kind of kinks and fetishes that other people have doesn't mean it isn't healthy or valuable. Especially on a place like tumblr, where communities are built around these sexual interests. It isn't some industry imposing artificial expectations on an unwilling populace. It's people who are genuinely into such a crazy variety of things…
I don't believe that. There is research showing that online pornography distorts people's views of sex, making people less satisfied with their real life partners, and pushing their fetishes into more extreme territory.
This is sex negative, and harmful. And I believe we can see the results of this with all the headlines talking about how people are having less sex. A larger and larger percent of orgasms are happening online, to unrealistic scenarios.