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Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by autokad »

ASalazarMX wrote: post #70
bvinc wrote: post #21

My daughter at 12 got sucked into Tumblr and developed an eating disorder. She was in this gigantic web of pro-ana tumblrs with crazy diet plans that tell you to eat like 100 calories a day. Then the app would just keep suggesting more, "skin and bones", "thinspo", "meanspo". Holy crap there are some scary corners of Tumblr. I of course am more mindful of what she looks at, but she was hiding it and I can't monitor e…

I knew pro-anorexia groups use slang like "your friend Ana" to hide their actions, but had to google "thinspo" and "meanspo". Thinspo (thin inspiration) is positive anorexia reinforcement, like anorexic role model pictures. Meanspo (mean inspiration) is negative anorexia reinforcement, like aphorisms demonizing fat or destructive critic. Why are young girls so vulnerable to mental disease trends? What can we do bette…

> Why are young girls so vulnerable to mental disease trends?"

all kids are vulnerable. maybe girls are more sheltered? and..

> "What can we do better as a society to strengthen the resilience of kids?"

stop sheltering them, let them fail.

i am still a little pissed at pink floyd. i get what they are railing against, but yes, yes I do need an education. i nearly took that too literally when i was a kid.

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Post by jimmy_chewbone »

bvinc wrote: post #21

My daughter at 12 got sucked into Tumblr and developed an eating disorder. She was in this gigantic web of pro-ana tumblrs with crazy diet plans that tell you to eat like 100 calories a day. Then the app would just keep suggesting more, "skin and bones", "thinspo", "meanspo". Holy crap there are some scary corners of Tumblr. I of course am more mindful of what she looks at, but she was hiding it and I can't monitor e…

The solution is in societal morals and not in tech companies doing the censoring.

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Post by jimmy1 »

ASalazarMX wrote: post #70
bvinc wrote: post #21

My daughter at 12 got sucked into Tumblr and developed an eating disorder. She was in this gigantic web of pro-ana tumblrs with crazy diet plans that tell you to eat like 100 calories a day. Then the app would just keep suggesting more, "skin and bones", "thinspo", "meanspo". Holy crap there are some scary corners of Tumblr. I of course am more mindful of what she looks at, but she was hiding it and I can't monitor e…

I knew pro-anorexia groups use slang like "your friend Ana" to hide their actions, but had to google "thinspo" and "meanspo". Thinspo (thin inspiration) is positive anorexia reinforcement, like anorexic role model pictures. Meanspo (mean inspiration) is negative anorexia reinforcement, like aphorisms demonizing fat or destructive critic. Why are young girls so vulnerable to mental disease trends? What can we do bette…

You have highlighted a key distinction here, but proceeded to go back to "kids" but I wanted to highlight something that the US HHS found when studying the gender differences between bullying and that is girls tend to experience victimization in the form of sexual harrassment or emotional aggression where as boys were more likely to be victimized physically. Whether nor not this leads credence to any sort of gender theory, or how girls and boys are stereotyped or whatever you want to infer, there are real measurable differences between the type of toxicity found through online bullying or in person bullying, and for girls it does tend to be something emotional (think "ew you're fat, you should just stay home", "ew why are you wearing that", "ew you look like such a pig") versus boys where it tends to be physical threats of violence (think "I'm going to beat your ass", "give me all your lunch money fatty or you'll pay")

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Post by androidgirl »

bvinc wrote: post #21

My daughter at 12 got sucked into Tumblr and developed an eating disorder. She was in this gigantic web of pro-ana tumblrs with crazy diet plans that tell you to eat like 100 calories a day. Then the app would just keep suggesting more, "skin and bones", "thinspo", "meanspo". Holy crap there are some scary corners of Tumblr. I of course am more mindful of what she looks at, but she was hiding it and I can't monitor e…

Hey, firstly I am so very sorry for what you and your family is going through. Having a child encounter very scary parts of the world is always awful.

I'm now in my early 20's, but when I was a kid about your daughter's age I also stumbled into that awful, awful corner of the web and developed an eating disorder (ED).

As an adult now, my message is it can and will get better. ED is a tough problem, but with work and persistence both she and you can work through it.

I won't tell you how to raise your daughter, at all. Just offering a sympathetic viewpoint!

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by Laforet »

qwerty456127 wrote: post #123

I wish the could just tag particular subtumblrs as NSFW or something and filter these by default. Users should be let to choose for themselves. Banning adult content is ridiculous.

There is already forced login for tagged adult subs, as well as a quarantine mode that embed the affected subs to your timeline rather than accessible as its own subdomain. If anything this has already killed much discoverability because search engines are prevented from crawling and their in-house search is useless anyway.

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Post by debaserab2 »

nickthegreek wrote: post #15
pdimitar wrote: post #9

If Verizon bought Tumblr with the sole purpose of having one more service to serve ads to, and if banning the adult content move aims to please the advertisers then oh boy, are they in for a nasty surprise. Tumblr will become a ghost town in days.

Agreed. So many artists, photographers and models used tumblr to showcase their work. It was also easy to link your blog to a .com with little to no webdev experience. The only other social media network out there with a following that allows near the same level of expression is twitter and I have already seen posts from artists directing their followers there. But twitter is no real substitute to what tumblr offered…

I'd say instagram is the other big one for artists, not twitter. Instagram has all the functionality of tumblr with even more accessibility.

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Post by kartan »

jimmy_chewbone wrote: post #212
bvinc wrote: post #21

My daughter at 12 got sucked into Tumblr and developed an eating disorder. She was in this gigantic web of pro-ana tumblrs with crazy diet plans that tell you to eat like 100 calories a day. Then the app would just keep suggesting more, "skin and bones", "thinspo", "meanspo". Holy crap there are some scary corners of Tumblr. I of course am more mindful of what she looks at, but she was hiding it and I can't monitor e…

The solution is in societal morals and not in tech companies doing the censoring.

I posted this 1 day ago (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18583017) "YouTube, for example, can show advertisements for well known companies in videos about Anti-vaccination, far-right conspiracies, etc. without consequences.

Why is that? Because all that happens in the privacy of your own computer. Usually any newspaper that publicly have printed such bullshit in their pages will be dead. Public will react to it.

What is different? Facebook, YouTube, etc. are personalized. You are shown what you are interested in without public accountability. Niche radical content gets a lot of views for its own controversial nature. Views and money.

Who wants to investigate, hire good writers and expend the money that it takes to write a good article when you can hire some one without ethics for a fraction of the price and get as many or more views as radicalization grows?

YouTube, Facebook and others say that they are not responsible of the content they offer. I think that it should be true for things like comments. But for the monetized content they are 100% responsible of incentivizing that radicalization and killing good journalism in the process. "

Tech (apps) companies cannot solve so much problems as they think. But, they can solve the problems that they have created.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by LinuxBender »

ravenstine wrote: post #111
LinuxBender wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does exist. It's not a new protocol, you can use (just about) anything that supports tcp. The domain names all end in ".onion"

For such purposes, Tor would be pretty inefficient. I suppose one could say that the inefficiency is a "feature" that makes the system self-limiting, curbing porn addiction. LOL

It certainly rules out streaming large videos. For pictures and small videos it should be sufficient.

The more challenging issue I see is getting a large community of people to switch from their existing happy-clicky (low-friction, no pun intended) website to something that requires installing Tor.

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Post by JBReefer »

Apocryphon wrote: post #170
bredren wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also see this as a market opportunity for a startup to adapt / improve on tumblr and fill the void. An unexpected, and permanent content restriction on a major platform is a disruptive event.

Yesterday's BitChute discussion [0] brought up the unfortunate fact that many ostensibly free-speech zone sites such as Voat and Gab just end up being havens for far right bigots and conspiracy theorists. Made me wonder if that toxic stew could be balanced if far left activists brigaded those platforms. With this story, it'd be even more amusing if amateur erotica creators and kink community people migrated from Tumb…

Far Right + Far Left !== somewhere good, you just get Reddit (or WW2). You need sane people to have sane conversations.
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