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Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by wolco »

tapland wrote: post #230
panic wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This content will still be allowed, though, since it's not "real-life human genitals or female-presenting nipples".

Yeah it's just 'how to live an unhealthy life and risk dying well before turning 15: 101' I don't know what to do about it, but even as a tech savvy free speech proponent I feel very unhappy about the content kids consume on tumblr specifically. Bullying groups on snapchat etc are just the same old bullying upgraded with a better communications platform, but tumblr offers thousands of insane cult groups run for and b…

It is the same as before but parents feel safer the kids are on their room.

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Post by jchw »

Max_Mustermann wrote: post #169
qwerty456127 wrote: post #145

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Don't you happen to know any alternatives BTW?

Some people on Reddit are recommending Pixiv, a Japanese site.

Pixiv is also a cool company. I don't want to speak too much for fear of messing up some of their story but they're basically a bit like Japanese deviantArt. They've open sourced some small parts of their code: https://github.com/pixiv

As far as content goes, it is constrained by Japanese law, which is mostly more liberal around art with the exception of their oddly specific yet vague censorship requirements.

Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th

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Post by Nasrudith »

pdimitar wrote: post #9

If Verizon bought Tumblr with the sole purpose of having one more service to serve ads to, and if banning the adult content move aims to please the advertisers then oh boy, are they in for a nasty surprise. Tumblr will become a ghost town in days.

They always make the same boneheaded mistake with media. People go to a platform because it has what they want. There is something very minutely controversial that nobody in the target market gives a flip about anyway. Therefore now that we spent all this money getting it we should make it bland and advertiser friendly like what everbody alreafy left and hey where did everybody go again?

I just don't get how that keeps on happening when it doesn't seem to be even a good short-termist move.

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Post by MickerNews »

Nelson69 wrote: post #258
rustybelt wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why can't you monitor (almost) everything? Unless it's at a friend's house, my ten-year-old has no access to tumblr. I fail to understand why children must have access to internet connected devices.

What's your long term game plan with that? At some age, they'll get a device, are you just hoping for the best when that happens? Or "you pay for it, it's your problem" or what? We limit device time and I try to be as involved as I can, we ask them what they're doing, we try to play games with them, etc. Every day. We keep repeating the mantra about not talking to strangers online, and to tell us if they talk to you.…

>What's your long term game plan with that?

That they're going to be more mature when that happens because they've demonstrated that they weren't ready just yet.

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Post by dingoegret »

zerealshadowban wrote: post #236

Interesting how the presentation of healthy sexuality and eroticism in US culture increasingly suffers under a joint assault by neo-puritans, radical feminists, middle-of-the-road advertisers, and gender-smashing warriors. By the gods, even at the gym the vast majority of Americans feel they must cover their body with towels when walking to/from the showers, and those who don't are eyed with suspicion. Similar trends…

You are confused between the Western myth making history in pop culture and factual history. Greek aesthetics in public art greatly favored modesty and was heavily influenced by adjacent semitic cultures. Real history is very different from the fictional romanticization in media. https://phoenicia.org/greek.html

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Post by ConceptJunkie »

api wrote: post #114
ASalazarMX wrote: post #70

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I knew pro-anorexia groups use slang like "your friend Ana" to hide their actions, but had to google "thinspo" and "meanspo". Thinspo (thin inspiration) is positive anorexia reinforcement, like anorexic role model pictures. Meanspo (mean inspiration) is negative anorexia reinforcement, like aphorisms demonizing fat or destructive critic. Why are young girls so vulnerable to mental disease trends? What can we do bette…

It's not a gender thing. Young people in general are vulnerable to all kinds of negative groupthink because they don't have a fully formed identity, experience, or adult critical thinking skills. The nature of the toxic material seems to differ a bit by gender. Loads of teen boys are sucked into toxic online cults too including neo-Naziism, extreme misogyny, other kinds of toxic political radicalism, gaming addiction…

And groupthink is orders of magnitude more powerful in the era of social media.

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Post by awakeasleep »

zerealshadowban wrote: post #236

Interesting how the presentation of healthy sexuality and eroticism in US culture increasingly suffers under a joint assault by neo-puritans, radical feminists, middle-of-the-road advertisers, and gender-smashing warriors. By the gods, even at the gym the vast majority of Americans feel they must cover their body with towels when walking to/from the showers, and those who don't are eyed with suspicion. Similar trends…

"Presentation of healthy sexuality" is a pretty mixed up way to look at online pornography

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Post by post_break »

BlueAThrow wrote: post #146

Apple is calling the shots here. Tumblr was not going to be allowed back on the app store while adult content was on the site.

Citing Kotaku "In an email a spokesperson from Tumblr clarified that the removal of adult content was not related to the app’s removal from the iOS store."

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Post by PurpleBoxDragon »

chipotle_coyote wrote: post #259
CPLX wrote: post #6

This bit, within the linked story, seems relevant: https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/20/18104366/tumblr-ios-app-...

While this may well be a factor in their decision, it seems highly unlikely to me that (a) Apple was entirely unaware porn existed on Tumblr for the years the app was in the store before November 2018, and (b) the only way Tumblr could ensure there was no child porn on their servers was to ban everything that smacks of NSFW-ness down to "female-presenting nipples." Tumblr's CEO said they've been considering this move…

b might not be so insane if you consider that tumblr is used by a lot of people who posts selfies. That would include a lot of teens/tweens. The problem with selfies is that they wouldn't be in anything like photoDNA and thus impossible to catch by any of the modern day algorithms except for the ones designed to catch porn in general. They might not have any better solution (of course they would ban stuff as it was reported, but that might not be good enough) and apple's move forced their hand. Guess the question is what caused apple to do what it did now.
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