AI Mistakes Bus-Side Ad for Famous CEO, Charges Her With Jaywalking

Post by markdown » Sun, Nov 25, 2018, 9:05 PM UTC

will_brown wrote: post #135

raleigh_user wrote: post #44

Heres further proof the justice system is screwed. Yesterday I was stopped while driving for not having current tags. Registration was renewed but I didn't have the sticker yet. Cop looked at my paperwork said all good be back in 5. Come to find out, I haven't had a valid license in 5 years. There was a mistake in court 5 years ago when I paid a fine (speeding ticket). I have a receipt from court saying all settled/m…

It’s funny but at the end of the day what youre talking about is the realization of idiocracy through our implementation of shitty “automation” using software. I mean basically you have a computer system where the court system, law enforcement and DMV are all saying your license is expired for failure to pay...when you actually paid. Now you are getting more tickets and basically stuck in an infinite loop of hell. I’…

Post by tmkc13 » Sun, Nov 25, 2018, 9:07 PM UTC

Post by rocqua » Sun, Nov 25, 2018, 9:08 PM UTC

Jasper_ wrote: post #101

rocqua wrote: post #27

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A machine can be tested for bias and measures taken against such bias are certainly followed. The same does not hold for humans. Detecting the bias (down to the person level) is very hard. Going on to remedy it is even harder. You can't (or at least shouldn't) reprogram people. In other words, you can change a racist machine, but not a racist cop.

The data we have isn't crime data. It's arrest data. Even when the programmers aren't trying to introduce bias, by training on arrest data from racist cops, the machine will learn the racist decisions as well. And people trust it more because "computers can't be racist"

Post by coldtea » Sun, Nov 25, 2018, 9:09 PM UTC

wgerard wrote: post #146

NeedMoreTea wrote: post #142

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UK has never had jaywalking laws. Most countries don't. We have crossings too, of course, which are optional, but sensible to use when it's rush hours etc. There's no sign that our collisions or injuries are disproportionately high. A pedestrian crosses when they feel it is safe to do so, and anywhere along the road they choose. Having started to cross they have priority over traffic. Lately some drivers are less inc…

> UK has never had jaywalking laws. Most countries don't... A pedestrian crosses when they feel it is safe to do so, and anywhere along the road they choose. Having started to cross they have priority over traffic. That's really interesting! I wasn't aware of that. What happens when a driver hits a pedestrian? Is there an investigation into whether the driver could've stopped in time?

Post by wgerard » Sun, Nov 25, 2018, 9:09 PM UTC

NeedMoreTea wrote: post #160

wgerard wrote: post #146

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> UK has never had jaywalking laws. Most countries don't... A pedestrian crosses when they feel it is safe to do so, and anywhere along the road they choose. Having started to cross they have priority over traffic. That's really interesting! I wasn't aware of that. What happens when a driver hits a pedestrian? Is there an investigation into whether the driver could've stopped in time?

Loosely the presumption of guilt lands on the car driver for failing to stop in time, just as it would if you ran into the back of someone, or hit a cyclist. There are of course circumstances where a driver has little chance, like a kid running from between parked cars after their ball, someone not looking, or a cyclist running a light. The police generally investigate the scene and assess what happened, measure out…