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Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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I don't even know what Twitter is for except mutual high fives over the most superficial "look at me" memeish stuff. It's worse than facebook as far as the "get attention" vibe. Granted all social media is about getting attention, and I don't think there is anything wrong with it necessarily. Attention is nice, there is good reason for it, but when the message is so tailored to just that and there isn't anything else…

It took me about 10 years to finally "get Twitter". I used to use it for professional reasons, posting what I considered relevant content. For the most part no one really cared. The engagement was almost always nil. Sort of like saying something intelligent, out of the blue, to a crowded stadium of people doing the same thing. Then, 2 years ago I created a new account that ONLY focused on a personal hobby of mine: re…

Sounds a lot like going back to the anonymous/pseudonymous usenet groups and forums that we had before 'social networking' became a buzzword.

Why use Twitter for such things, given its limitations? Why not use a blog, personal site, or forum where instead of just posting a link you can also write your thoughts about it, etc.? I get not wanting to bother with running a personal site or maintain a blog, but there are tons of hobby forums.

Personally, I never got the appeal of Twitter, and while I did enjoy early Facebook, since it jumped the shark I use it primarily as a long-term contact list for people that I don't talk to very often so that we'll still have a way to connect if one of us changes email addresses/phone numbers before the next time we talk.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Note I wrote my father in law when he had gone too far down the rabbit hole and legitimately worried about the poison it spreads around his demographic: I left Facebook when I read some press release about it being designed from the outset to make you feel bad because it keeps you engaged; hoping someone agrees with something you liked or shared and the dopamine hit it releases. I don’t like feeling manipulated and m…

I don't even know what Twitter is for except mutual high fives over the most superficial "look at me" memeish stuff. It's worse than facebook as far as the "get attention" vibe. Granted all social media is about getting attention, and I don't think there is anything wrong with it necessarily. Attention is nice, there is good reason for it, but when the message is so tailored to just that and there isn't anything else…

As a small business owner, I find Twitter useful for sharing news on product updates, articles/tutorials and new features. Ironically, this has cost me $0.0 so far.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Medical twitter is fairly positive and a great way to learn about new papers and interact with educators and researchers. Check out the #foamed (Free Open Access Medicine) hashtag. I usually try to avoid following political people and keep my feed science-focused.

I've noticed more people in tech posting mostly political stuff nowadays, when I followed them because of their tech posts. I had to go back and prune my feed to get away from all the bile. Angry political screeds are hard to filter out nowadays.

Muting lots of words helps with this. Here is a great starter to keep your feed sane:

https://gist.github.com/potatoqualitee/d873c10d8cc578c11fc2e...

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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If you're using macOS, you'll need to do sed -i "" ... (put an empty string argument after the -i flag). If the second to last argument on the command line is -i, I think on the version of sed that ships with most distros, sed assumes that the argument to -i is the empty string and that the last argument in the command is the pattern. The version that ships with macOS, on the other hand, always treats the argument af…

No, I use ubuntu sed: can't read s/^127.0.0.1 facebook.com/#127.0.0.1 facebook.com/: No such file or directory

If it's helpful, I have to run this as su on macOS. I got no idea if it works for anyone else.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Anecdotal obviously, but I'm surprised at how pervasive the "Facebook listens to your conversations through the app" rumors are, even among the more technically literate. I'm curious how much of an effect that rumor had on this finding.

I thought it was just a rumor until I experienced it firsthand. I was walking down a long hallway at work with a coworker between meetings. At one end of the hallway my zipper broke on my backpack. We walked and talked about backpack zippers though the corridor while I held my phone in my hand walking. She and I were talking about if you could sew in a new zipper or you'd have to buy an entirely new backpack. And if…

Here is another anecdote. I was talking to a friend through a WhatsApp voice call. During the call he told me that he had just bought an air hockey table. Later that day when I logged in to Facebook, I see an ad for an air hockey table. Creeped the hell out of me.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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It took me about 10 years to finally "get Twitter". I used to use it for professional reasons, posting what I considered relevant content. For the most part no one really cared. The engagement was almost always nil. Sort of like saying something intelligent, out of the blue, to a crowded stadium of people doing the same thing. Then, 2 years ago I created a new account that ONLY focused on a personal hobby of mine: re…

I use Twitter in an almost identical fashion, and I experience absolutely no toxicity, trolling, or other bad behaviour. Twitter is, like many things, what you make of it.

“Twitter is, like many things, what you make of it.“

With a default mode of garbage.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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My sister has gone down the same rabbit hole. She really thinks she's "fighting the good fight" by posting a fresh outrage every day. She's glued to a changing handful of posts, replying rapid-fire to anyone who disagrees. I used to post (4-5 times per year) photos of my vacations, but I don't want to feed the whole lifestyle porn/envy cycle.

> She really thinks she's "fighting the good fight" by posting a fresh outrage every day. I have a few people in my feed who do this, from both sides. It almost feels like they've turned into nothing but meme/share-bots. It gets so annoying that I should probably block them already. If you try to call out the content, you either get childishly shouted down because you're on "the other side", or called out as "the pro…

> or called out as "the problem" because you don't agree with their group-think.

It feels good to have someone verbalize this.

I can't enjoy much social media anymore because there's an expectation that discussing anything opinionated requires a preface about what side you're on.

Making a politically neutral statement means you're with the enemy (where the enemy is on the side opposite whoever reads your neutral statement).

I'm not even referring to politics or discussion of world events: even more futurist/what-if thoughts about how society works/could work.

HN is the calmest place to have a discussion with someone, because no one's looking for clues about your personal beliefs and what side you're ostensibly warring for.

9 times out of 10, only the content of your comment seems to matter. As it should be.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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I did this. In the following sequence, over a few years, and am now to step 5: 1. Turn off notifications for the Facebook app on your phone; 2. Turn off notifications for the Facebook Messenger, Instagram, et cetera apps on your phone; 3. Delete the Facebook app from your phone; 4. Delete the Facebook Messenger, Instagram, et cetera apps from your phone; and finally 5. Log out of Facebook on your desktop. It took me…

I’m at step 5, except for messenger because there is no way I can keep touch with my friends (from all around the world) without messenger.

Step 5 is tricky to accomplish as I need facebook to login to a bunch of websites.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Anecdotal obviously, but I'm surprised at how pervasive the "Facebook listens to your conversations through the app" rumors are, even among the more technically literate. I'm curious how much of an effect that rumor had on this finding.

My wife and I conduct experiments. The first was shouting “dog food” multiple times in earshot to our google home and phones. Sure enough a chewse.com pamphlet came in the mail a few days later with a discount for the website. We’ve mentioned some pretty eclectic things and found ads on Hulu correspond. I had heard some story or myth that Target could predict pregnancies based on customer’s purchase habits [1], and h…

I really don't think these companies would risk doing that. I think millions of people receive advertising from chewy each day.

Snooping on users like that would cost them everything.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Note I wrote my father in law when he had gone too far down the rabbit hole and legitimately worried about the poison it spreads around his demographic: I left Facebook when I read some press release about it being designed from the outset to make you feel bad because it keeps you engaged; hoping someone agrees with something you liked or shared and the dopamine hit it releases. I don’t like feeling manipulated and m…

IMO talk radio is far worse than Facebook. It’s just a constant stream of vitriol and nastiness with no end.

What stations / networks / personalities, specifically?
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