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Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by r00fus » Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 10:21 PM UTC

mrweasel wrote: post #93

brobdingnagians wrote: post #12

I realized I was checking facebook a lot each day whenever I had a spare moment, but didn't have anything really interesting happening, and I wanted to engage more with those around me and have more time for down-time thinking. So I deleted the app, knowing that making the threshold higher for checking it would reduce my usage, now I might check facebook once a month on my desktop, and still nothing happening, so it…

I believe that is how Facebook dies. Not people deleting their account, they’ll just stop checking their feed, because it’s spam and stuff friends likes or share and no longer posts about their life.

Does it matter if FB (super)cookie and http beacons are still reporting back what they're browsing?

FB can always promote Instagram or Whatsapp into their main money cow.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by qwerty456127 » Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 10:21 PM UTC

derefr wrote: post #318

I want to delete the Facebook app, but apparently it's needed on iOS for other apps to "Login with Facebook." So instead, I just leave it installed but with all push-notifications, location-usage, etc. disabled, and then kill it right after I'm done using it to log into something.

I was lucky to realize using social log-ins is a mistake early enough so I only StackExchange accounts tied to Google.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by starpilot » Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 10:23 PM UTC

jwally wrote: post #298

Note I wrote my father in law when he had gone too far down the rabbit hole and legitimately worried about the poison it spreads around his demographic: I left Facebook when I read some press release about it being designed from the outset to make you feel bad because it keeps you engaged; hoping someone agrees with something you liked or shared and the dopamine hit it releases. I don’t like feeling manipulated and m…

My sister has gone down the same rabbit hole. She really thinks she's "fighting the good fight" by posting a fresh outrage every day. She's glued to a changing handful of posts, replying rapid-fire to anyone who disagrees. I used to post (4-5 times per year) photos of my vacations, but I don't want to feed the whole lifestyle porn/envy cycle.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by AngryData » Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 10:23 PM UTC

derefr wrote: post #326

irrational wrote: post #224

I have teenagers and college-age kids and I'm not surprised in the least. They openly consider Facebook to be a platform for old people. They seem to have moved to more of a distributed social media system. That is, they don't seem to have a central place where they communicate with friends. They seem to move between texts, facetime, tumblr, instagram, phone calls (!), etc. in a fluid manner. Anything except for Face…

I don't think there's any sort of "stigma." There's just the fact that, since "old people" are on Facebook—and that likely includes your parents and other relatives—they all expect you to add them as a Facebook friend. At which point you won't be able to be yourself on Facebook any more, because they can observe any of your "broadcast" activity. The nice thing about the other platforms isn't that they don't have "old…

I think this is the biggest factor. Nobody wants their family to be snooping on their every action, especially if it is a long distance family member that you normally only see a few times a year at best or someone you live with every day. With close friends you have a field of similar interests you can discuss, with total internet strangers you can say or do anything and if people don't like it then nothing happens, but with family members and parents it is a field of potential landmines for tons of kids where everything they say and post needs to be catered to not upset those who have power over their lives.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by qwerty456127 » Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 10:24 PM UTC

There is a funny poll on the page by the link: Which do you trust the most? Google (49%), Facebook (4%), Twitter (12%), President Trump (35%). I understand trusting the president is a political opinion and many people may trust him but why the heck do so many people trust Google? Don't they realize Google intentionally owns them even more than Facebook does?

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by lotsofcows » Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 10:25 PM UTC

kadendogthing wrote: post #374

jwally wrote: post #298

Note I wrote my father in law when he had gone too far down the rabbit hole and legitimately worried about the poison it spreads around his demographic: I left Facebook when I read some press release about it being designed from the outset to make you feel bad because it keeps you engaged; hoping someone agrees with something you liked or shared and the dopamine hit it releases. I don’t like feeling manipulated and m…

"He has said things that the man I grew up with would never have said" It's an uncomfortable topic to broach, but you can't blame everyone else but your father for the opinions he holds.

No, of course not; my upbringing, the people surrounding me, the cards life dealt me have no impact on me in way whatsoever.

Poster should call him out. Say you find it unpleasant. If the online echo chamber extends into real life as well he's got no hope.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by deminature » Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 10:27 PM UTC

ModernMech wrote: post #356

deminature wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I stopped posting because of the whole thing about social media written in ink. I'm not posting something which may be held against me, or have me randomly shamed in the future because the nuance of my joke was lost in text. When I last posted in 2007, the internet seemed to be a much different, friendlier place. Facebook in 2007 was also mostly about friends, and not selling me stuff that it couldn't possibly know I…

> When I last posted in 2007, the internet seemed to be a much different, friendlier place. But then something happened...

I'd love to know what happened, because I'm honestly not sure what it was. I just remember posting fearlessly about all sorts of random stuff I'd ashamed to think I put on the internet nowadays.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by dotancohen » Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 10:27 PM UTC

rotskoff wrote: post #336

duxup wrote: post #320

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I don't even know what Twitter is for except mutual high fives over the most superficial "look at me" memeish stuff. It's worse than facebook as far as the "get attention" vibe. Granted all social media is about getting attention, and I don't think there is anything wrong with it necessarily. Attention is nice, there is good reason for it, but when the message is so tailored to just that and there isn't anything else…

I have found that the machine learning research community uses twitter pretty effectively. I don't tweet myself, but I do follow a good number of other researchers and often find interesting papers and results through the venue. It's much more effective than scouring the arXiv.

You should write a bot in Scikit / Python to scrape Arxiv for interesting articles!

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by ghostly_s » Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 10:34 PM UTC

eiaoa wrote: post #95

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #42

I did this. In the following sequence, over a few years, and am now to step 5: 1. Turn off notifications for the Facebook app on your phone; 2. Turn off notifications for the Facebook Messenger, Instagram, et cetera apps on your phone; 3. Delete the Facebook app from your phone; 4. Delete the Facebook Messenger, Instagram, et cetera apps from your phone; and finally 5. Log out of Facebook on your desktop. It took me…

One extra step you can do (somewhere between 2 and 3) is change your profile pic and your cover photo to messages advertising your intent to disengage from Facebook. That serves two functions: 1) it lets people who want to reach you know they shouldn't use Facebook to do so, and 2) it makes the withdraw visible and social, which may encourage others to follow.

I've been wondering...is there a collection of preformatted 'facebook sux!' banner-size images somewhere I can use? :)

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by spookthesunset » Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 10:37 PM UTC

deminature wrote: post #379

kashprime wrote: post #363

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Medical twitter is fairly positive and a great way to learn about new papers and interact with educators and researchers. Check out the #foamed (Free Open Access Medicine) hashtag. I usually try to avoid following political people and keep my feed science-focused.

I've noticed more people in tech posting mostly political stuff nowadays, when I followed them because of their tech posts. I had to go back and prune my feed to get away from all the bile. Angry political screeds are hard to filter out nowadays.

> Angry political screeds are hard to filter out nowadays.

A sign of the times. A lot of people are just really pissed off right now. I also think a lot of people that used to ignore politics realized that it matters...