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Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by unethical_ban »

jwally wrote: post #298

Note I wrote my father in law when he had gone too far down the rabbit hole and legitimately worried about the poison it spreads around his demographic: I left Facebook when I read some press release about it being designed from the outset to make you feel bad because it keeps you engaged; hoping someone agrees with something you liked or shared and the dopamine hit it releases. I don’t like feeling manipulated and m…

Yep. I've heard of this movie but haven't watched it yet - though my sibling assures me it is a copy of our experience with our parents. They were conservative/moderate at one point, but now regurgitate radical right-wing talking points without defending them, and say that "everyone just reads what they want to believe" but applies it only to me and my New York Times, moreso than them and their literal fake news peddling outlets.

The Brainwashing Of My Dad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXTjz2H57rE

FWIW I now have my own blog (not associated with HN, yet) that I use to type out my thoughts on things. I've shared it with a few people in my life that I think might care. The act of it being a blog instead of posts on Facebook is very intentional, and I don't care that not many see it. It is more of a journal.

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Post by artursapek »

_emacsomancer_ wrote: post #257
holtalanm wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

no effect for me, personally. my reasons for deleting the app and halting usage of facebook was entirely based on the plethora of toxic/useless content that just made me want to punch most of my friends in the face.

I recall someone posting on Reddit: Facebook = Friends and family pissing me off Reddit = Strangers amusing me

Hah that's perfect. I hope reddit never lets themselves ruin that for some ad money.

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Post by batrat »

samfisher83 wrote: post #52

They are just going from FB to Instagram: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/22/teens-abandoning-facebook-st... FB can shift its model to becoming like priceline. Just try to buy up all the social networks. For example most travel site you probably use are owned by priceline. The same way Facebook could maybe buy up other social networks.

I hate Instagram more than FB. Everybody become some sort of "influencer" there, everybody is selling something!!!??!! On top of that 1 out of 3 posts is an AD. I don't have it on my phone anymore.

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Post by lostgame »

sterlind wrote: post #314
lostgame wrote: post #287

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay, so put a WebKit wrapper around that?

Is there some one-click way to "bottle" web apps like this on demand? I'm thinking of something that does some light crawling, fills its cache up, shims xmlhttprequests for static data, and sandwiches it in a shell. It wouldn't be perfect, but it could always fall back on the real site when its cache falls through..

Yup. Cordova / PhoneGap pretty much more-or-less does the trick for this.

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Post by derefr »

irrational wrote: post #224

I have teenagers and college-age kids and I'm not surprised in the least. They openly consider Facebook to be a platform for old people. They seem to have moved to more of a distributed social media system. That is, they don't seem to have a central place where they communicate with friends. They seem to move between texts, facetime, tumblr, instagram, phone calls (!), etc. in a fluid manner. Anything except for Face…

I don't think there's any sort of "stigma." There's just the fact that, since "old people" are on Facebook—and that likely includes your parents and other relatives—they all expect you to add them as a Facebook friend. At which point you won't be able to be yourself on Facebook any more, because they can observe any of your "broadcast" activity.

The nice thing about the other platforms isn't that they don't have "old people" on them. It's specifically that your parents and relatives won't even think to add you on, say, Snapchat.

Also note that the apps that teens mostly do interact with parents through now, consist mostly of group-chat apps like Messenger or WeChat, where there is an explicit separation of social contexts (the groups you're chatting with), such that you don't need to worry about your relatives seeing anything as long as you don't put it in your family group.

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Post by notatcomputer68 »

lostgame wrote: post #184
wgerard wrote: post #6

Anecdotal obviously, but I'm surprised at how pervasive the "Facebook listens to your conversations through the app" rumors are, even among the more technically literate. I'm curious how much of an effect that rumor had on this finding.

I’m curious as to whether it’s a rumour. I’m an iOS developer, and I know how difficult and seemingly implausible these rumours are, but the causal evidence to the contrary I’ve experienced is too ‘Black Mirror’ for my liking, or others. I have troubles convincing myself it’s not true because it just happens on an almost bi-daily basis - it’s too accurate and it regularly involves things either my friends or I have d…

There are a lot of sources for error here. 1. You may pay more attention to ads you wouldn't have noticed. 2. Something prompted you to say what you said and Facebook may be aware of that cause. 3. Your behavior may change as a result of having said it and Facebook may pick up on that.

There is a solution to all this. A (repeated) double blind experiment.

Pick two phrases. Say one so the phone can hear and one so it can't. It's very important you don't know which is which. You could eg have a friend put the phone in one of two rooms.

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Post by juhq »

derefr wrote: post #318

I want to delete the Facebook app, but apparently it's needed on iOS for other apps to "Login with Facebook." So instead, I just leave it installed but with all push-notifications, location-usage, etc. disabled, and then kill it right after I'm done using it to log into something.

"Login with Facebook" without the app will just use the browser on your device and you can continue login into apps using your fb account without the app.

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Post by bodas »

samstave wrote: post #289

The biggest failure in FB afaiac, is the complete package of utility to truly connect people with tools. For example, they could have created workspaces for people to create teams and collaborate and build things, manage communities and projects have real facility to build create and run organizations with Facebook being the profile glue and communications channel. They have had less-than-mediocre efforts on all of t…

I completely agree. They have all the users but their core product is shambolic.

For example, Facebook messenger should be the best way to communicate with someone, yet it's surpassed by even one of their own subdivisions (Whatsapp).

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Post by anticensor »

ravenstine wrote: post #241

This last Wednesday was the first day that I scrolled to the bottom of my feed and it said something like "There are no more posts to show." I only check once a day and never post or comment. The vast majority of posts are not from friends, especially not those my age, but of pages I once "liked". Facebook is a ghost town.

Facebook needs a "reset feed" and "dislike".
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