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Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by markmark »

oe wrote: post #172
bracobama wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait what... Instagram's feed isn't chronological?

They added a indicator "You’re All Caught Up" when you've seen all new posts on the feed. Of course there can be some posts below the indicator that you haven't seen. Now also Strava is making their feed sorted by some magic with no option to make it chronological :( I can't quite understand this trend.

I _think_ strava is just when a user actually posted to srava, it used to be when they did the ride, but you would miss friend's rides if they only update strava the next day. I slightly preferred the old way, but it isn't too bad so far.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by Yhippa »

ajkjk wrote: post #263
_sdfo wrote: post #96

There's just no way I could keep myself up to date with local events without Facebook. I live in a post-soviet country so Snapchat and Instagram are considered pretty niche here so every social event is always documented on Facebook. I also hold a monthly gamedev meetup, which would be utterly impossible without Facebook. The attendance has grown from 5 to 30 people in a few months and is now helping jump start the g…

I hear you. Really all I want is a solid app that's only Facebook's event system and friend lists and nothing else. But I can't see any growth-motivated company ever making that and just stopping there. I'd even pay for it, if I thought they wouldn't try to make more money after that. Maybe it would have to be a non-profit.

https://www.facebook.com/local/

I believe you still need a FB account.

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Post by kd0amg »

TuringNYC wrote: post #83
brobdingnagians wrote: post #12

I realized I was checking facebook a lot each day whenever I had a spare moment, but didn't have anything really interesting happening, and I wanted to engage more with those around me and have more time for down-time thinking. So I deleted the app, knowing that making the threshold higher for checking it would reduce my usage, now I might check facebook once a month on my desktop, and still nothing happening, so it…

Slightly different scenario on my side -- I want to use it, but the timeline has gotten so limited it doesn't draw me in as much. (No, i'm not on blocked lists. But strange things happen, e.g., Facebook has decided that despite my brother and I being friends and being marked "close" and not blocking each other, we dont see many of each others' posts.) I'll confess I actually like using Facebook because it allows me t…

I've given up on my Facebook-curated timeline. Now I just have a "friend list" with all of my friends on it, and I read that list's feed instead.

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Post by TheKarateKid »

lostgame wrote: post #211
wgerard wrote: post #187

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Posted this below, but: While anything's possible, it would be pretty shocking and a big blow to Apple if Facebook figured out how to, on iOS (I can't speak for Android): * Record audio if the app's killed completely * Record audio with microphone permission disabled * etc. All of which have been claimed and seem unlikely. The far more likely scenario is that we're much more predictable than we think. Remember the ta…

I understand these things. I explained that explicitly. I had already seen that post. But I explained that I'm a developer. I used the term 'implausible', and, yes, given legal requirements and whatnot there would have to be some extremely shady activity going on, but what I'm trying to explain is that whatever is going on has nothing to do with text or anything except spoken voice and occurs on such a regular basis…

This. This. This.

I'm a developer too and I know it doesn't sound technically possible, but after FB's behavior it really wouldn't surprise me. Collecting copies of every SMS from Android phones via Messenger when it only advertised using Messenger to send/receive SMS alongside FB messages? Downright lies and abusive to privacy.

Most of us knew how poor Facebook's developer data policy was and no one cared until Cambridge Analytica. I'm just waiting for this voice scandal to happen in the next year or two.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by lostgame »

djstein wrote: post #207
lostgame wrote: post #191

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Does anyone else find it super-strange that, as what is consistently one of the top ten iOS applications in the App Store, and a massive company now purchased by an even more massive company, Instagram can not be bothered to produce a native iPad app? It's been 8 years (the first iPad was released in 2010) and the platform has certainly proven itself not to be a fad. Instagram looks like an actual joke on my iPad Pro…

I believe they have focused on their web app for this. Turning it into a home screen based web application has been far better. Not as great as a native app, but better than the iPhone one scaled up!

Okay, so put a WebKit wrapper around that?

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by lostgame »

TheKarateKid wrote: post #286
lostgame wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand these things. I explained that explicitly. I had already seen that post. But I explained that I'm a developer. I used the term 'implausible', and, yes, given legal requirements and whatnot there would have to be some extremely shady activity going on, but what I'm trying to explain is that whatever is going on has nothing to do with text or anything except spoken voice and occurs on such a regular basis…

This. This. This. I'm a developer too and I know it doesn't sound technically possible, but after FB's behavior it really wouldn't surprise me. Collecting copies of every SMS from Android phones via Messenger when it only advertised using Messenger to send/receive SMS alongside FB messages? Downright lies and abusive to privacy. Most of us knew how poor Facebook's developer data policy was and no one cared until Camb…

Thanks for backing me up.

I'm such a skeptic by nature. But this messes with my head, and other developers at my office, too.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by samstave »

The biggest failure in FB afaiac, is the complete package of utility to truly connect people with tools.

For example, they could have created workspaces for people to create teams and collaborate and build things, manage communities and projects have real facility to build create and run organizations with Facebook being the profile glue and communications channel.

They have had less-than-mediocre efforts on all of these. And their system stinks of every kind of digital fraud you can imagine from inflated and fake metrics across the board, to data breaches and leaks, a UX that is labrynthian etc.

With the money And resources they have, why don't we see the fruits of Vision that could be available to them.

Their cell phone was a flop, their engagements feel cancerous and they are basically a new-money-elite building moats around old-boy-exclusionist thinking.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by hirundo »

bogomipz wrote: post #277
deminature wrote: post #240

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I stopped posting because of the whole thing about social media written in ink. I'm not posting something which may be held against me, or have me randomly shamed in the future because the nuance of my joke was lost in text. When I last posted in 2007, the internet seemed to be a much different, friendlier place. Facebook in 2007 was also mostly about friends, and not selling me stuff that it couldn't possibly know I…

>"I stopped posting because of the whole thing about social media written in ink." What are you referring to here? Could you elaborate? Newspaper coverage of social media?

S/he's updating the phrase "written in stone" for the internet age.
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