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Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by roywiggins »

adtac wrote: post #63
samfisher83 wrote: post #52

They are just going from FB to Instagram: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/22/teens-abandoning-facebook-st... FB can shift its model to becoming like priceline. Just try to buy up all the social networks. For example most travel site you probably use are owned by priceline. The same way Facebook could maybe buy up other social networks.

Wouldn't that be a case of abusing their market position to anti-competitively protect their market share? The same thing Microsoft was sued for?

It's completely legal to be a monopoly by buying every competitor out fair and square.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by int0x80 »

dymk wrote: post #70
lostgame wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. Code size is based on a thing called optimization. If your application is too big, and it's because you think that there's too many engineers because there's too much code because the final application is three times as large as it has any right to be, then you have a problem of too many cooks in the kitchen. If you're ignoring optimization in favour of hiring more people, you, as a software company, have your pr…

You seem to be convinced that you've solved the application size problem that literally thousands of engineers have been working on for years. Or that you've got more insight into the engineering tradeoffs made at the company. I can assure you that's not the case.

I can assure you that the facebook CLIENT application is not rocket science and not worth 350M of disk. Maybe those thousands of engineers are looking at it from the wrong angle, yes, absolutely posible. Maybe they are not focusing on it too, but in something else.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by mrweasel »

brobdingnagians wrote: post #12

I realized I was checking facebook a lot each day whenever I had a spare moment, but didn't have anything really interesting happening, and I wanted to engage more with those around me and have more time for down-time thinking. So I deleted the app, knowing that making the threshold higher for checking it would reduce my usage, now I might check facebook once a month on my desktop, and still nothing happening, so it…

I believe that is how Facebook dies. Not people deleting their account, they’ll just stop checking their feed, because it’s spam and stuff friends likes or share and no longer posts about their life.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by eiaoa »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #42

I did this. In the following sequence, over a few years, and am now to step 5: 1. Turn off notifications for the Facebook app on your phone; 2. Turn off notifications for the Facebook Messenger, Instagram, et cetera apps on your phone; 3. Delete the Facebook app from your phone; 4. Delete the Facebook Messenger, Instagram, et cetera apps from your phone; and finally 5. Log out of Facebook on your desktop. It took me…

One extra step you can do (somewhere between 2 and 3) is change your profile pic and your cover photo to messages advertising your intent to disengage from Facebook. That serves two functions: 1) it lets people who want to reach you know they shouldn't use Facebook to do so, and 2) it makes the withdraw visible and social, which may encourage others to follow.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by _sdfo »

There's just no way I could keep myself up to date with local events without Facebook. I live in a post-soviet country so Snapchat and Instagram are considered pretty niche here so every social event is always documented on Facebook.

I also hold a monthly gamedev meetup, which would be utterly impossible without Facebook. The attendance has grown from 5 to 30 people in a few months and is now helping jump start the game development scene in the country (not because of my meetup).

Despite this, I have a deep hatred towards the platform and can't stand how people around me get locked into feedback loops of endless scrolling. I uninstalled the app on my phone a year ago, kept messenger. Also, I haven't seen the news feed in more than 2 years, after installing a plugin that blocks it. The productivity gains were and still are immeasurable.

I see the platform as a versatile and useful tool to help connect with others and I hope that Facebook will try to improve it and remove some of its ethically questionable features, but it's still evil.

It's a necessary evil.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by Rjevski »

roywiggins wrote: post #91
adtac wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't that be a case of abusing their market position to anti-competitively protect their market share? The same thing Microsoft was sued for?

It's completely legal to be a monopoly by buying every competitor out fair and square.

I think this shouldn't be legal.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by eiaoa »

roywiggins wrote: post #91
adtac wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't that be a case of abusing their market position to anti-competitively protect their market share? The same thing Microsoft was sued for?

It's completely legal to be a monopoly by buying every competitor out fair and square.

> It's completely legal to be a monopoly by buying every competitor out fair and square.

Pretty sure it's not in the US, or at least can be halted by the disapproval of antitrust regulators.

For example: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/staples-office-depot-merge...

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by fermienrico »

weberc2 wrote: post #71
samfisher83 wrote: post #52

They are just going from FB to Instagram: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/22/teens-abandoning-facebook-st... FB can shift its model to becoming like priceline. Just try to buy up all the social networks. For example most travel site you probably use are owned by priceline. The same way Facebook could maybe buy up other social networks.

I bet the Facebook employees who pushed to buy Instagram are feeling pretty justified right about now. But still, I'm not sure if Instagram can be monetized to the same degree as Facebook was in the last decade, especially as they continue to wreck their brand with privacy abuses (note that I'm not a privacy hawk).

Instagram is better positioned for monetization because of:

A) Stories and TV like content to compete with Snap B) Ads integrated into their proprietary browser (aka Instagram app) C) Sponsored live events

They’ve essentially made a closed ecosystem without having to rely on a desktop browser and they’re more mobile centric than Facebook. Furthermore, Visual content is the basis for IG and it lends itself better for monetization.

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