Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app • Hacker News Board

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by lostgame » Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 7:31 PM UTC

samfisher83 wrote: post #52

They are just going from FB to Instagram: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/22/teens-abandoning-facebook-st... FB can shift its model to becoming like priceline. Just try to buy up all the social networks. For example most travel site you probably use are owned by priceline. The same way Facebook could maybe buy up other social networks.

Does anyone else find it super-strange that, as what is consistently one of the top ten iOS applications in the App Store, and a massive company now purchased by an even more massive company, Instagram can not be bothered to produce a native iPad app?

It's been 8 years (the first iPad was released in 2010) and the platform has certainly proven itself not to be a fad.

Instagram looks like an actual joke on my iPad Pro 12".

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by Rotdhizon » Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 7:32 PM UTC

Facebook really has no draw to it anymore other than the convenience of messaging people that you don't have other lines of communication with. Going through my feed, it's 95% spam consisting of friends sharing stock pictures with spiritual quotes, self motivational quotes, etc. It's difficult to filter through that for some people you want to keep tabs on because they share annoying junk from 50 different sources, requiring me to manually block every single one to keep them off my feed. I didn't use it for several years and it had very few negatives. The only thing I missed out on was not reconnecting with old friends. FB is for the older crowds now, it's lost all appeal to the younger generations. Hell, I'd rather see myspace revived than have FB be popular again. At least myspace let you get creative.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by kopo » Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 7:32 PM UTC

tlow wrote: post #169

Are social networks inherently evil? Is it possible some sort of B-Corp or Foundation could run an ethical social networking product that put respecting and serving its users as a first principle? Could an offering out-compete today's products and gain significant user-ship? Is a post-Facebook world better?

All they have to do is hide the like count.

And humanity can return to normal human communication without a count influencing every behaviour and thought.

They can still use the counts behind the scenes to surface popular content and whatever else they do with it.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by pard68 » Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 7:32 PM UTC

I deleted my account. A comment on an HN article a few weeks ago prompted me to see if, after six months, it was really deleted. Nope still there. Waiting to see if it will delete properly this time.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by kazinator » Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 7:33 PM UTC

Where are these users going? If they are migrating to something owned by Facebook, it's a moot point.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by kposehn » Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 7:33 PM UTC

> Pew surveyed more than 3,400 U.S. Facebook users in May and June, and found that a whopping 44 percent of those ages 18 to 29 say they've deleted the app from their phone in the last year. Some of them may have reinstalled it later.

Yet the total user base in the US is something over 100mm - how would you possibly consider 3,400 people be indicative of an entire demographic?

Edit: Yes, I'm aware of statistics and how they work ^_^ It is more that I'm skeptical of the conclusion being based of a sample truly diverse enough to be confident in

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by cronix » Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 7:34 PM UTC

weberc2 wrote: post #71

samfisher83 wrote: post #52

They are just going from FB to Instagram: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/22/teens-abandoning-facebook-st... FB can shift its model to becoming like priceline. Just try to buy up all the social networks. For example most travel site you probably use are owned by priceline. The same way Facebook could maybe buy up other social networks.

I bet the Facebook employees who pushed to buy Instagram are feeling pretty justified right about now. But still, I'm not sure if Instagram can be monetized to the same degree as Facebook was in the last decade, especially as they continue to wreck their brand with privacy abuses (note that I'm not a privacy hawk).

You mean to ruin a secondary platform? I've all but stopped using Instagram for the same reason I've all but stopped using FB... there are just too many ads to scroll past to see what I'm actually there to see (the people I'm friends with/following). Every other post now seems to be an ad/sponsored post. Both platforms have gone overboard to the point that I only visit maybe once/week now instead of daily. I also don't have any FB related apps on my phone since they all share data with FB and want access to every possible damn permission. I just visit the sites in my desktop browser now (and sign out when done). So, they better be charging a LOT more for the ads they show as I don't think I'm in the minority here by visiting a lot less often due to the complete over-saturation of them.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by WoodenChair » Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 7:35 PM UTC

kposehn wrote: post #196

> Pew surveyed more than 3,400 U.S. Facebook users in May and June, and found that a whopping 44 percent of those ages 18 to 29 say they've deleted the app from their phone in the last year. Some of them may have reinstalled it later. Yet the total user base in the US is something over 100mm - how would you possibly consider 3,400 people be indicative of an entire demographic? Edit: Yes, I'm aware of statistics and h…

Statistically 3,400 is a large (read statistically significant) sample size. If the participants were appropriately sampled, it can be indicative of a trend.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by JohnJamesRambo » Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 7:36 PM UTC

My Mom and her generation are the only ones I know around me still using Facebook. They eat it up, they can't get enough of it like crack, since it is many of their first exposure to social media in their lifetime.

I don't think that bodes well for Facebook, that's not the demographic anyone wants as far as I know. Like Snapchat after Kylie Jenner's tweet, this survey is the canary in the coal mine telling investors to get out.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Post by RandallBrown » Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 7:38 PM UTC

Rotdhizon wrote: post #192

Facebook really has no draw to it anymore other than the convenience of messaging people that you don't have other lines of communication with. Going through my feed, it's 95% spam consisting of friends sharing stock pictures with spiritual quotes, self motivational quotes, etc. It's difficult to filter through that for some people you want to keep tabs on because they share annoying junk from 50 different sources, r…

My facebook feed is 95% pictures of my friends in their halloween costumes.