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Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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A good part of this is that their app is huge and gobbles hundreds of megabytes of space on my phone I'd far rather use for more photos or other apps.

Make a minimalistic, lightweight, not gobbling RAM or storage app, and I'd probably use it again.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Wow. Thanks for the way you put this out. This is exactly how I was feeling / what I was experiencing. So I went ahead, and installed my own MatterMost instance with friends. What I realized recently is that Facebook is built in a way that makes it really hard to have a real conversation. People only share links and shout their opinions with no real place for exchange.

Turns out people don't always wan't their conversations shared with [ramifications of current privacy settings unknown, assumed to be everyone]

That's why I personally like Twitter.

1. There is no private (there is, but ignore that)

2. Choose a topic to post about. Further that and none else.

3. Post topical discussions only.

4. Don't involve yourself in screeds. There will be a sentence that is taken out of context.

Doing these creates a really cool group over $thing. And that positive attraction pulls more in :)

This is the good side of social media: connecting people with similar interests from around the world.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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How does this work? I get an error? sed: can't read s/^127.0.0.1 f....

If you're using macOS, you'll need to do sed -i "" ... (put an empty string argument after the -i flag). If the second to last argument on the command line is -i, I think on the version of sed that ships with most distros, sed assumes that the argument to -i is the empty string and that the last argument in the command is the pattern. The version that ships with macOS, on the other hand, always treats the argument af…

No, I use ubuntu

sed: can't read s/^127.0.0.1 facebook.com/#127.0.0.1 facebook.com/: No such file or directory

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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>"I stopped posting because of the whole thing about social media written in ink." What are you referring to here? Could you elaborate? Newspaper coverage of social media?

I think he means "written in ink" in the sense that something you post cannot be erased, much like how if you write something with a pen, vs with a pencil.

Same thing as HN btw. Ive known a few European citizens asking for their posts and account deleted, and was refused point blank.

Remember that. We're being used here just as much as on the FAANG platforms.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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I've noticed more people in tech posting mostly political stuff nowadays, when I followed them because of their tech posts. I had to go back and prune my feed to get away from all the bile. Angry political screeds are hard to filter out nowadays.

> Angry political screeds are hard to filter out nowadays. A sign of the times. A lot of people are just really pissed off right now. I also think a lot of people that used to ignore politics realized that it matters...

Things are so weird now. We should feel good that everyone is engaged in dialogue about our grand civic project, right? But when you actually stare out onto the landscape of discussion, there isn't a valuable exchange of ideas to observe.

While political opinions are more numerous, they're divorced from evidence and calcified. As useful as no opinion, and possibly worse. (Then again, that's my opinion, right?)

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Note I wrote my father in law when he had gone too far down the rabbit hole and legitimately worried about the poison it spreads around his demographic: I left Facebook when I read some press release about it being designed from the outset to make you feel bad because it keeps you engaged; hoping someone agrees with something you liked or shared and the dopamine hit it releases. I don’t like feeling manipulated and m…

Do you have a source for that extraordinary claim that Facebook was designed from the outset to make people unhappy, and that people use Facebook more when they are made unhappy?

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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It is frightening how the internet outrage culture is getting people fired and destroying their lives over some stupid tweet.

The risk/reward of posting humor on the internet nowadays is terrible. Reward is maybe a few of your friends find it funny, maybe it gets ignored. Risk is someone is offended, you lose your livelihood and become an internet pariah because someone organized an angry mob against you on some Discord. Maybe someone doxes you, finds your address and starts harassing you at your home. The internet in 2018 is kind of a terr…

> The risk/reward of posting humor on the internet nowadays is terrible.

Doing so under your own name, yes. That's why I think places like Reddit are better suited to these kinds of silly things, assuming you don't get doxxed, which can happen.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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I don't think there's any sort of "stigma." There's just the fact that, since "old people" are on Facebook—and that likely includes your parents and other relatives—they all expect you to add them as a Facebook friend. At which point you won't be able to be yourself on Facebook any more, because they can observe any of your "broadcast" activity. The nice thing about the other platforms isn't that they don't have "old…

I don't know. Recently I was at an event where an older teen was giving a speech where he mentioned some social media platform and then explained, "That's like Facebook for you old people". That got quite a laugh, but in my experience there really is a stigma among young people that Facebook is only for old people.

Right, but there is no stigma against Facebook, the stigma is against "old people" and wherever they happen to be.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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I have teenagers and college-age kids and I'm not surprised in the least. They openly consider Facebook to be a platform for old people. They seem to have moved to more of a distributed social media system. That is, they don't seem to have a central place where they communicate with friends. They seem to move between texts, facetime, tumblr, instagram, phone calls (!), etc. in a fluid manner. Anything except for Face…

People always complain about younger people not getting it, but to me this sounds like a new generation of internet users actively self-regulating their social media use.

Nah, they are just using different apps.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Turns out people don't always wan't their conversations shared with [ramifications of current privacy settings unknown, assumed to be everyone]

That's why I personally like Twitter. 1. There is no private (there is, but ignore that) 2. Choose a topic to post about. Further that and none else. 3. Post topical discussions only. 4. Don't involve yourself in screeds. There will be a sentence that is taken out of context. Doing these creates a really cool group over $thing. And that positive attraction pulls more in :) This is the good side of social media: conne…

I experienced the same with Google+ and D&D over the past years... But they're closing now. :-p
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