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Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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I believe that is how Facebook dies. Not people deleting their account, they’ll just stop checking their feed, because it’s spam and stuff friends likes or share and no longer posts about their life.

I stopped posting because of the whole thing about social media written in ink. I'm not posting something which may be held against me, or have me randomly shamed in the future because the nuance of my joke was lost in text. When I last posted in 2007, the internet seemed to be a much different, friendlier place. Facebook in 2007 was also mostly about friends, and not selling me stuff that it couldn't possibly know I…

I am careful about what I let get out on the Internet. I’m more concerned about being embarrassed about some of the juvenile arguments I got in using my real name on Usenet back in the day than what I post on FaceBook.

Any company that wouldn’t want to hire me because they find my bleeding heart libertarian pro-capitalist views offensive is not a company I would want to work for. Hell they would probably be confused about where I stand on most things.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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I realized I was checking facebook a lot each day whenever I had a spare moment, but didn't have anything really interesting happening, and I wanted to engage more with those around me and have more time for down-time thinking. So I deleted the app, knowing that making the threshold higher for checking it would reduce my usage, now I might check facebook once a month on my desktop, and still nothing happening, so it…

Slightly different scenario on my side -- I want to use it, but the timeline has gotten so limited it doesn't draw me in as much. (No, i'm not on blocked lists. But strange things happen, e.g., Facebook has decided that despite my brother and I being friends and being marked "close" and not blocking each other, we dont see many of each others' posts.) I'll confess I actually like using Facebook because it allows me t…

FB will prioritize timeline posts of your contacts that you have the most messages exchanged with over Messenger.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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I stopped posting because of the whole thing about social media written in ink. I'm not posting something which may be held against me, or have me randomly shamed in the future because the nuance of my joke was lost in text. When I last posted in 2007, the internet seemed to be a much different, friendlier place. Facebook in 2007 was also mostly about friends, and not selling me stuff that it couldn't possibly know I…

>"I stopped posting because of the whole thing about social media written in ink." What are you referring to here? Could you elaborate? Newspaper coverage of social media?

I think he means "written in ink" in the sense that something you post cannot be erased, much like how if you write something with a pen, vs with a pencil.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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I stopped posting because of the whole thing about social media written in ink. I'm not posting something which may be held against me, or have me randomly shamed in the future because the nuance of my joke was lost in text. When I last posted in 2007, the internet seemed to be a much different, friendlier place. Facebook in 2007 was also mostly about friends, and not selling me stuff that it couldn't possibly know I…

>"I stopped posting because of the whole thing about social media written in ink." What are you referring to here? Could you elaborate? Newspaper coverage of social media?

They're referring to social media being permanent, no take backsies. Everything you share is going to be on the internet for all time

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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I want to add one more thing. The ads weren't just for a travel destination. It would be something totally out of character for us like "Let's build a tree house and rent in out on AirBnb" and there would be ads for renting out tree houses.

Sure but did you have any other interaction with the internet about these topics? Did you search Google for tree house building codes? Did you search Pinterest or Instagram for ideas? I have heard this anecdote many times but I don't believe Facebook is actually recording everything we say. Mostly because I don't think our phones have that kind of battery life. I do think they have data on essentially everything you…

No. NO interaction with the Internet.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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I deleted the app because I was sick of getting notifications somewhere along the lines of “your friend just commented on a photo” or “your friend recently liked a post”. I tried turning off all notifications that weren’t directly related to my content and Facebook still sent me these types of notifications. So I said that I would just use the website instead of getting these notifications (at least 2 a day). I want…

This was the straw that finally made me delete everything. For a few days/week I was getting text messages for notifications even though I had them disabled and had even deleted the app (deleted app out of the frustration you mentioned). I couldn't escape it.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/16/17022162/facebook-two-fac...

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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They weren't analyzing voice, but what they are doing gets them just as much or more data. - They watch how quickly you scroll through the news feed at what you pause on, even briefly. - They have ad deals with many of the sites you probably visit so can determine many of your search terms and interests even if you didn't search those things through Facebook itself. - They have your friend & family graph and Facebook…

Shit like THIS is why "fuck Facebook."

I'd be okay with it, if it stopped all these shootings and bombings, but that doesn't seem to be working out too well. :-(

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Note I wrote my father in law when he had gone too far down the rabbit hole and legitimately worried about the poison it spreads around his demographic:

I left Facebook when I read some press release about it being designed from the outset to make you feel bad because it keeps you engaged; hoping someone agrees with something you liked or shared and the dopamine hit it releases. I don’t like feeling manipulated and manipulation is facebooks modus operandi. All to track everything I do around the internet to sell me ads for $12/person/year in revenue.

I left Twitter for basically the same reason and when I’d stick on the site refreshing it all day hoping someone noticed the well thought out point I spent 3 hours putting together only to realize no one cares. Leaving both after about a week feels like when I have taken breaks from caffeine. It sucks at first but after a week, you feel refreshed and clean. I’m sure drug abstinence feels similar.

My father went down the rabbit hole of Facebook and shares political crap constantly, flooding peoples news feeds. There’s a feature on Facebook that lets you silently unfollow people so they’re on mute. Everyone of my family members who are Facebook friends with my dad have done this to him and don’t see anything he posts. He’s shouting into a black hole thinking the whole world is paying attention while in reality no one is.

He has said things that the man I grew up with would never have said and Facebook/ talk radio is to blame. We’re all vulnerable to it, which is why I try and stay away from it.

https://www.wired.com/2017/02/dont-believe-lies-just-people-...

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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I'm using Facebook every day to search for affiliate marketing websites and niche sites that I can buy.

There are a ton of groups with website exchanges. It's also great to find virtual assistants and content writers. We also have a group for our city where things like cars, couches and other stuff gets posted. The same for jobs, models and other topics. I can hire a bunch of people, buy websites and trade stuff just using Facebook.

I'm 20y/o, so I guess I'm part of the relevant user group. All I can say is that it's still very useful. I never comment or like anything, though. I'm basically using it for business.

I don't think that I would use Instagram or Snapchat in the same way. I recently bought an Instagram account with 10k followers to get into this stuff, but I don't see the value of it (yet). It feels shallower than Facebook (which is pretty hard).

edit: When I think about it - Facebook gives me easy access to a lot of people and services. Does somebody know any alternatives (hiring people, trading stuff and websites, local groups) when Facebook's user base leaves the platform?

edit2: Reading through the comments - am I the only one who uses Facebook as a means to do business? I thought that more people on HN would use it for that.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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I’m curious as to whether it’s a rumour. I’m an iOS developer, and I know how difficult and seemingly implausible these rumours are, but the causal evidence to the contrary I’ve experienced is too ‘Black Mirror’ for my liking, or others. I have troubles convincing myself it’s not true because it just happens on an almost bi-daily basis - it’s too accurate and it regularly involves things either my friends or I have d…

Are you sure that your friends haven't searched for whatever FB suggested? Perhaps not even the exact thing but something similar or associated (e.g. searched for dog treats, sees ads for dog beds)? Have you visited a place that sells that thing with location services enabled? Do your friends express a lot of interest in the things advertised (posts, pictures, comments on any FB platform)? Do you spend a decent amoun…

> Are you sure that your friends haven't searched for whatever FB suggested?

Absolutely, beyond a shadow of a doubt, in several instances. Too many, at this point.

>> Perhaps not even the exact thing but something similar or associated (e.g. searched for dog treats, sees ads for dog beds)?

Definitely not. These things are often obscure, and many times, said in jest, and never repeated via texts, and certainly never looked up in a serious context.

>> Have you visited a place that sells that thing with location services enabled?

I keep all of my location services disabled by default. I do enough development to know that's a poor idea.

>> Do your friends express a lot of interest in the things advertised (posts, pictures, comments on any FB platform)?

No, again, I think it's that these things are often said or suggested in a joking manner that really throws my friends and I off a lot of the time.

>> Do you spend a decent amount of time with these friends? What about other people that use the same home/work networks that you do?

For sure. I spend a lot of time with a lot of my friends, and again, these things are observed by co-workers as well, our security is extremely tight at my office, so the idea that could be exploited in any way by something like Facebook is disturbing at best.

Frankly, the fact that you have to ask me these things alone is evidence enough as-is that there is an insane amount of intrusiveness going on.

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