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Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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This last Wednesday was the first day that I scrolled to the bottom of my feed and it said something like "There are no more posts to show." I only check once a day and never post or comment. The vast majority of posts are not from friends, especially not those my age, but of pages I once "liked". Facebook is a ghost town.

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I use Facebook way less than I used to...but I use Instagram way way more than I used to. So, I'm not sure it's all doom and gloom for Facebook as a company.

You obviously didn't read the article. "The survey measures only the core Facebook app, not Facebook-owned Instagram, WhatsApp and Messenger, all of which remain popular and offer a lot of room for revenue growth."

I obviously was not commenting on the article's content directly but on the doom and gloom scenario that others have, regarding the fall of Facebook (as a company.) Hence I said "as a company" in my original post.

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I deleted the app because I was sick of getting notifications somewhere along the lines of “your friend just commented on a photo” or “your friend recently liked a post”. I tried turning off all notifications that weren’t directly related to my content and Facebook still sent me these types of notifications. So I said that I would just use the website instead of getting these notifications (at least 2 a day). I want…

This. I had my account disabled for a while and only recently re-enabled it. I try to check it once a week and 95% of the notifications aren't relevant.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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I believe that is how Facebook dies. Not people deleting their account, they’ll just stop checking their feed, because it’s spam and stuff friends likes or share and no longer posts about their life.

I stopped posting because of the whole thing about social media written in ink. I'm not posting something which may be held against me, or have me randomly shamed in the future because the nuance of my joke was lost in text. When I last posted in 2007, the internet seemed to be a much different, friendlier place. Facebook in 2007 was also mostly about friends, and not selling me stuff that it couldn't possibly know I…

It is frightening how the internet outrage culture is getting people fired and destroying their lives over some stupid tweet.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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I did this. In the following sequence, over a few years, and am now to step 5: 1. Turn off notifications for the Facebook app on your phone; 2. Turn off notifications for the Facebook Messenger, Instagram, et cetera apps on your phone; 3. Delete the Facebook app from your phone; 4. Delete the Facebook Messenger, Instagram, et cetera apps from your phone; and finally 5. Log out of Facebook on your desktop. It took me…

I'm logged out on my phone. Logged in through desktop in Chrome but have the "News Feed Eradicator for Facebook" chrome extension installed and am only logged in from my specific "personal" container in firefox, and all of that is enough of an obstacle for me to not spend much time on it.

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Anecdotal obviously, but I'm surprised at how pervasive the "Facebook listens to your conversations through the app" rumors are, even among the more technically literate. I'm curious how much of an effect that rumor had on this finding.

This came up (albeit regarding Instagram ads) at a Seattle conference I was at a couple of weeks ago. It was during a talk about the future of video ads. An FB engineer was one of the panelists, so an audience member relayed a story of him having a conversation about a product with a friend, and then seeing an ad for that exact product in his Instagram timeline.

Well, what was the response?

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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I made a Social Media Facebook app https://2fb.me but Iv'e never used Messenger, or Instagram outside of testing their functionality and haven't posted a Facebook update in over a year. I occasionally react to posts. Yet as far as Social Media, Twitter, the most depressing site of all still manages to suck in a lot of my time. Am I a weirdo? Man, does the internet need to change. It's all the same. VR gamerooms? Non of this will help Facebook. The network effect that made it popular is already working it's way in reverse.

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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I wonder how long that will continue. I get so many spam calls every day (about a dozen now) that I am looking towards a future where I don't have a POTS number.

The spam phone calls and especially texts have dramatically risen over the last two years. Any idea why this is?

I imagine a large part of it is the dramatic lower barrier thanks to services like twilio and competitors. They enable a lot of really cool tech but the programatic access to the phone network like that makes all that stuff significantly easier

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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They are just going from FB to Instagram: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/22/teens-abandoning-facebook-st... FB can shift its model to becoming like priceline. Just try to buy up all the social networks. For example most travel site you probably use are owned by priceline. The same way Facebook could maybe buy up other social networks.

Does anyone else find it super-strange that, as what is consistently one of the top ten iOS applications in the App Store, and a massive company now purchased by an even more massive company, Instagram can not be bothered to produce a native iPad app? It's been 8 years (the first iPad was released in 2010) and the platform has certainly proven itself not to be a fad. Instagram looks like an actual joke on my iPad Pro…

They’ve tested it time and time again, most recently last year. There’s less posting of images and stories which they figured would lower engagement across the app in general if there was marginally less content (they see it as their high growth crown jewel). I suspect when growth plateaus we’ll see the iPad app

Re: Facebook exodus: Nearly half of young users have deleted the app

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I wonder how long that will continue. I get so many spam calls every day (about a dozen now) that I am looking towards a future where I don't have a POTS number.

The spam phone calls and especially texts have dramatically risen over the last two years. Any idea why this is?

So this is just my two-cents based on working for a VOIP company for a couple years, but I noticed a few patterns, specifically the industry-wide pressure to compete with Twilio, that seem to make it easier to spam text/calls.

1.) VOIP providers have low-barriers to sign-up (typically just a credit card fraud check + check to see if IP or address is from certain countries where fraud calls are common). The up-side to this is that it makes the user experience more friendly to real customers b/c they don't have to wait around, but the downside is that any spammer semi-familiar with the checks that get done can sign up and start sending spam calls for a day or two before most places get complaints and shut them down. The fact that many voip providers allow users to set their Display Id to anything too without any approval also is also really convenient for spammers (ie, there aren't usually ways to immediately detect when a user fraudently set their Caller Id to the name of a bank or something)

2.) APIs everywhere. Twilio got big in part b/c it made APIs available, but the smaller providers are catching up and also adding APIs for texting and calling services. Spammers can automate their spam and re-use the scripts between different accounts when they get banned, so it makes sending out spam texts easier too.

3.) VOIP companies actually are ok with some degree of spam, as long as the spammers pay their bills. So they don't have a motivation to actually stop all of it. Instead of blocking all spam-ish calls outright, some places will just make a deal so that some callers (identified by having a high rate of unanswered calls + very short length calls) pay a higher rate to compensate for potential reputation damage. This is meant for legal cold-calling I imagine, but in practice, they don't know what is actually being said on those phone calls.

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