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Re: Gab.com banned from PayPal

#101
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Can someone provide background context for gab.com?

Scroll down to "Popular posts" here[1] to know exactly what kind of site this is. 1. https://gab.com/popular

Doesn't look that much different than Facebook, honestly.

Most posts look pretty normal.

Re: Gab.com banned from PayPal

#102
post #98
post #80

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I see. Dare to disagree with Thomas Ptacek and you get shadow banned?

We haven't banned anyone here. But please don't post unsubstantive comments.

Telling Thomas he's factually wrong is considered unsubstantive now?

Re: Gab.com banned from PayPal

#103
post #61

Good. Now for Stripe. I already called their customer support this morning and told them I'd pull my organization's account unless they dropped Gab. I'm sure I'm not the only customer who has. They enable payments processing for Gab, which means that they also profit from Gab. They make money off the alt-right. They choose to make money off the alt-right. You want protests in front of your office, Stripe, raising hel…

Gab is a free speech platform. Free speech != white supremacist

Alt-right conspiracy nuts != free speech.

Re: Gab.com banned from PayPal

#107
post #19

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That's just a catch-all for "our house, our rules". Legal authority aside, it's political warfare and nothing more.

That's pretty dismissive and combative. From a neutral perspective, it looks like one of the intrinsic characteristics of Gab is that it is host to more hateful expression than other platforms. Can you give something in the way of an explanation as to why you're so confident that can't be the real reason?

Did Gab pick the hate groups, or did the hate groups pick Gab? What if you created a platform for expression, and it was infiltrated by a certain type of audience that's generally repulsive. Should we sink your project?

Re: Gab.com banned from PayPal

#108
post #65

It's funny how those who cry hardest about being censored, when given a completely free space to express themselves, fill it to the brim with xenophobia, racism, fake news and outlandish conspiracy theories involving the Clintons https://gab.com/popular

Only in this particular cultural context. In the context of the Arab Spring such a platform would have very different content. What does seem to be the case is that every time someone attempts to deplatform the people writing about the subjects you listed, their audience grows instead of shrinks. What is the ultimate goal here because it seems like the deplatforming movement is spreading the ideas they oppose much fu…

Their audience doesn't grow because of this, it gets funneled into places like this where their true colours are on total display. Nobody gets converted to a xenophobic racist because they hear PayPal banned some crappy site

That being said, this kind of stuff is growing, but it's not because of some hand wavey "deplatforming" issue. It's because wages are stagnating people are being locked out of a future they want. Then some very powerful voices, often those benefiting from this very thing, turn around and tell them it's because of the Jews or the Mexicans or some other minority.

But that won't stop because it doesn't make economic sense. And you can't tell anyone this because your platform is built on it. So you have to keep spreading this toxicity and division even though it's killing the country. Because it's good for your side.

Then you combine this with the deep rooted racial issues that have been swept under the rug for the last 60 years with the current social changes plua external countries that would profit from division in America, and oh boy, you've got yourself some strong punch.

You're watching America eat itself in real time on platforms like this.

Re: Gab.com banned from PayPal

#109
post #73

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You just seem like a parody right now. (a) Why did you turn this into a left/right issue ? (b) How is Paypal left ? (c) Since when is the left the only one responsible for censorship or ToS enforcement. Because many examples exist today where centrists and the right do this as well.

Web platforms are censoring right wing conservatives. Which web platforms are censoring the left?

These aren't "conservatives". Conservatives aren't racists and anti-Semites.

Re: Gab.com banned from PayPal

#110
post #104

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How do you figure?

They’re different concepts, and disassociating with alt-right conspiracy nutcases is unrelated to free speech.

Banning alt-right conspiracy theory nutcases might just be related to free speech, however. And that's what most people seem to want Gab to do.
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