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Re: Gab.com banned from PayPal

#61

Good. Now for Stripe. I already called their customer support this morning and told them I'd pull my organization's account unless they dropped Gab. I'm sure I'm not the only customer who has. They enable payments processing for Gab, which means that they also profit from Gab. They make money off the alt-right. They choose to make money off the alt-right. You want protests in front of your office, Stripe, raising hel…

Gab is a free speech platform.

Free speech != white supremacist

Re: Gab.com banned from PayPal

#62
Gab has been described as Reddit for Racists.

A quick glance at Gab seems to show a large number of hate groups. Perhaps PayPal simply do not want the fallout that might ensue from that association.

Google has already removed the Gab app for violating their hate group policy. Apple and Twitter have also removed them.

Re: Gab.com banned from PayPal

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Or in other words: "Entity believes that discretion can be misused, despite thinking discretion is important" Which is an extremely reasonable position. (I've never heard of Gab.)

Well, now you have. It's white supremacist Twitter.

Sounds like a good thing to ban, but I'm still wary of the exact method. ('we can ban anyone' clauses, and the idea of generic payment providers being the arbiters)

Re: Gab.com banned from PayPal

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Paypal is not the government. Stop this absurd misrepresentation of censorship.

Stop the absurd misrepresentation that only the government censor.

When will society stop censoring my racist and xenophobic views! Free speech means everyone has to tolerate and accept what I'm saying!!1

Re: Gab.com banned from PayPal

#66

I am sort of assuming this is related to this article? https://www.businessinsider.com/pittsburgh-synagogue-shootin... Is Twitter, who also gave him a forum and declined to censor or punish him for threatening tweets, being similarly affected?

Twitter doesn't use PayPal to process payments, does it?

I'd assume they'd use square.

Re: Gab.com banned from PayPal

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Are they doing anything illegal?

In most countries, yes. But illegality is not the issue here. People simply have a right not to be associated with hate.

We dont live in a 3rd world country where free speech is illegal. Or a middle east country where you get stoned to death for being gay. We live in free speech america.. Gab did nothing wrong, and you pointing to the laws of 3rd worlds is a red herring

Re: Gab.com banned from PayPal

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Historically, voat and gab were set up because its users disapproved of the moderation on reddit and twitter. That differentiates the cultures on voat and gab from their predecessors.

That is an extraordinarily charitable way to describe the genesis of Gab, which actually has roots in a YC batch (that its founder, Andrew Torba, was kicked out of).

Could you say more about the Gab-YC connection?

Re: Gab.com banned from PayPal

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Are they doing anything illegal?

You don't have to do anyting illegal for me not to want to conduct business with you.

Paypal generally doesn't pull out of business unless its illegal. It was a bad move by paypal because 800000 gab users who did nothing wrong are now inconvenienced

Re: Gab.com banned from PayPal

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Was Gab actively supporting the hateful groups more than just giving them a speech platform? Because if not, this is truly terrifying. It seems like the "left" (whatever that means), with waves of ignorant support, is turning into the monster it thinks it's fighting against.

PayPal is a profit-oriented company, not the "left" - whatever that boogeyman means. A company that doesn't want to support one of the most vitriolic, hateful platforms on the internet. Speech has consequences and can turn violent and this platform welcomed these people and this hate speech (by explicitly catering to those that got banned from other services etc). Relevant: https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/201…

In America, here is no such thing as "hate speech", America has "free speech".
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