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I appreciate that fact that you can tell this is all just a front for beliefs they don't have. I mean if they really believe in free speech you would assume they would have mentioned Julian Assange or Wikileaks once. It would have made a lot more sense if they had ever mentioned how dangerous the censorship of Wikileaks by monetary means was. Fortunately they never did this so you can reasonably assume it is a front.
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I strongly believe that it's not.
If PayPal bans Gab because they dislike the speech available on Gab, it is literally an attack on Free Speech. I understand you feel differently.
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PayPal is a profit-oriented company, not the "left" - whatever that boogeyman means. A company that doesn't want to support one of the most vitriolic, hateful platforms on the internet. Speech has consequences and can turn violent and this platform welcomed these people and this hate speech (by explicitly catering to those that got banned from other services etc). Relevant: https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/201…
In America, here is no such thing as "hate speech", America has "free speech".
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Are they doing anything illegal?
In most countries, yes. But illegality is not the issue here. People simply have a right not to be associated with hate.
This is neither a right in any theoretical system of human rights I've seen, nor is there any practical way to disassociate people from a basic human emotion.
I appreciate that fact that you can tell this is all just a front for beliefs they don't have. I mean if they really believe in free speech you would assume they would have mentioned Julian Assange or Wikileaks once. It would have made a lot more sense if they had ever mentioned how dangerous the censorship of Wikileaks by monetary means was. Fortunately they never did this so you can reasonably assume it is a front.
Most people who believe in free speech only believe in freedom for their speech. That's just the way people are. Extremists cry foul that their free speech rights are being violated or that they're being censored but within their own groups they would quickly stamp out opposing ideas or criticism.
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”
Good. Now for Stripe. I already called their customer support this morning and told them I'd pull my organization's account unless they dropped Gab. I'm sure I'm not the only customer who has. They enable payments processing for Gab, which means that they also profit from Gab. They make money off the alt-right. They choose to make money off the alt-right. You want protests in front of your office, Stripe, raising hel…
Aren't you guys for free speech and minorities? Stopping alt-right (a minority) exercising their right to free speech doesn't seem like a good cause to pursue.
It's getting so annoying how leftists want to silence anyone that doesn't agree with them. This is part of the reason why people are abandoning your ideology in droves, at least in Europe.
Haven't you become the very thing you think you're fighting, or am I missing something?
Good. Now for Stripe. I already called their customer support this morning and told them I'd pull my organization's account unless they dropped Gab. I'm sure I'm not the only customer who has. They enable payments processing for Gab, which means that they also profit from Gab. They make money off the alt-right. They choose to make money off the alt-right. You want protests in front of your office, Stripe, raising hel…
Gab is a free speech platform. Free speech != white supremacist
It's funny how those who cry hardest about being censored, when given a completely free space to express themselves, fill it to the brim with xenophobia, racism, fake news and outlandish conspiracy theories involving the Clintons https://gab.com/popular
Is there a belief that we'll eventually reach a point where every single platform accessible to humanity is closed to those with ideas that we find unsavory? If not, then all of this seems to be causing much more harm than good as each attempt to silence them turns into a megaphone.
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Paypal is not the government. Stop this absurd misrepresentation of censorship.
Stop the absurd misrepresentation that only the government censor.