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Re: Gab.com banned from PayPal

#71
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or in other words: "Entity believes that discretion can be misused, despite thinking discretion is important" Which is an extremely reasonable position. (I've never heard of Gab.)

Well, now you have. It's white supremacist Twitter.

There are many racists and ISIS terrorists on twitter. I guess by your ridiculous logic, twitter is an Isis facebook

Re: Gab.com banned from PayPal

#72
post #19

Breaking: Gab Upset by the same treatment they promise in their legal terms: "Termination We may terminate your access to and use of the Services, at our sole discretion, at any time and without notice to you." [1] 1- https://gab.com/about/tos

That's just a catch-all for "our house, our rules". Legal authority aside, it's political warfare and nothing more.

That's pretty dismissive and combative. From a neutral perspective, it looks like one of the intrinsic characteristics of Gab is that it is host to more hateful expression than other platforms. Can you give something in the way of an explanation as to why you're so confident that can't be the real reason?

Re: Gab.com banned from PayPal

#73
post #16

Was Gab actively supporting the hateful groups more than just giving them a speech platform? Because if not, this is truly terrifying. It seems like the "left" (whatever that means), with waves of ignorant support, is turning into the monster it thinks it's fighting against.

You just seem like a parody right now. (a) Why did you turn this into a left/right issue ? (b) How is Paypal left ? (c) Since when is the left the only one responsible for censorship or ToS enforcement. Because many examples exist today where centrists and the right do this as well.

Web platforms are censoring right wing conservatives.

Which web platforms are censoring the left?

Re: Gab.com banned from PayPal

#74
post #57
post #16

Was Gab actively supporting the hateful groups more than just giving them a speech platform? Because if not, this is truly terrifying. It seems like the "left" (whatever that means), with waves of ignorant support, is turning into the monster it thinks it's fighting against.

It’s easy to say everyone has the right to a platform, but an overwhelming majority agrees that this shouldn’t apply to groups like pedophiles and Islamic State. The antisemitic alt-right is growing more violent. When do they cross the line, if you feel it hasn’t been crossed yet?

> antisemitic alt-right is growing more violent

More violent than what? Not more violent than leftists.

Re: Gab.com banned from PayPal

#75
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most companies have something in their ToS to the effect of "we can do whatever we want" -- that doesn't mean they're all the same. For example, Stripe and PayPal both have essentially the same ToS. But only PayPal has so many "banned for no reason" horror stories that there are multiple websites dedicated to cataloging them.

Don’t conflate this story with “banned for no reason”. There are plenty of reasons to ban Gab.

Banning Gab is an attack on Free Speech.

Re: Gab.com banned from PayPal

#76
post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is an extraordinarily charitable way to describe the genesis of Gab, which actually has roots in a YC batch (that its founder, Andrew Torba, was kicked out of).

Could you say more about the Gab-YC connection?

Torba had an unrelated YC startup during the batch that was running during the 2016 election season. He was ejected from YC for harassing batch-mates; there's an HN thread about it you can find in the search bar. He started Gab at just about the same time as he was kicked out of YC.

Re: Gab.com banned from PayPal

#78

It should honestly come as no surprise considering Gab, much like Voat, is a website filled with some of the most vitriolic and racist garbage I've ever seen. No company wants to be associated with a walking PR disaster. Most of the time however they're more than happy to take money from said places as long as people don't make it into a big PR problem.

As bad is voat is I've seen that aspect of humanity on Youtube, Facebook, the comment section of most major news sites, the live chat of twitch, etc.

That's quite true, but armies need bases.

Re: Gab.com banned from PayPal

#79

It should honestly come as no surprise considering Gab, much like Voat, is a website filled with some of the most vitriolic and racist garbage I've ever seen. No company wants to be associated with a walking PR disaster. Most of the time however they're more than happy to take money from said places as long as people don't make it into a big PR problem.

As bad is voat is I've seen that aspect of humanity on Youtube, Facebook, the comment section of most major news sites, the live chat of twitch, etc.

And? It shouldn't be there either.

Re: Gab.com banned from PayPal

#80
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or in other words: "Entity believes that discretion can be misused, despite thinking discretion is important" Which is an extremely reasonable position. (I've never heard of Gab.)

Well, now you have. It's white supremacist Twitter.

I see. Dare to disagree with Thomas Ptacek and you get shadow banned?
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