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Re: Digital Ocean Managed Databases

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Post by nojvek » Thu, Oct 25, 2018, 1:51 PM UTC

I’ve loved the simplicity and speed of DO.

DO has definitely a lot to offer via some simple cloudy things as

1) Good ol VMS and load balancers - they already do

2) Managed K8s - may be they already do? I dunno

3) Managed DBs - good to see this.

4) Big fat blob store (like s3) - not sure. CDN that operates over blob store would be nice too.

With this pieces, one can develop quite a significantly complex and scalable application without worrying about infra.

AWS, Azure, GCP are wayyy too complicated. There’s definitely a niche for an IAAS Company to only do the few important things and do them better (speed, reliability, price) than the big 3 and steal a meaningful chunk of the market.

Re: Digital Ocean Managed Databases

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Post by galby » Thu, Oct 25, 2018, 4:29 PM UTC

Caught this late this morning - any DO employees still here? I'm signed up for the k8 & postgres betas but haven't had any luck getting k8 opened up. Would LOVE to participate in the postgres managed beta - definitely trying to move off from AWS for this.

bryan at priceflow.com

Re: Digital Ocean Managed Databases

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Post by ng3 » Thu, Oct 25, 2018, 5:42 PM UTC

joering2 wrote: post #21

tnolet wrote: post #14

Just started using the new Kubernetes offering on Digital Ocean. Still in Beta but works pretty good. If this is a sign for how they will do databases, I'm all ears. Add CI/CD and you have a Heroku competitor.

Glad you are having fun working on your after hours side project with DO. But please DO NOT host with DO if you plan to run a real production systems, build a company, hire people etc. I have never found a better company to spun off a server and play with some settings but when their algorithm decides there is something fishy, bye bye your account, servers, backups, you never going to see any of this ever again. The…

I just had my account locked with no warning or explanation. All 8 droplets were turned off. Account was unlocked 40 minutes later (also with no notification), and I could go in and turn droplets back on.

Over 2 hours later and still no response to my support ticket asking why and how it happened.

I'll be interested in the response I get. Unless there's a good reason why, or a plan to prevent the how from happening again, I'll be shifting anything critical away from DO, and go back to just using it for spinning things up to play with or test on.

Re: Digital Ocean Managed Databases

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Post by thinkshiv » Thu, Oct 25, 2018, 6:32 PM UTC

copperx wrote: post #127

pmiri wrote: post #55

This is the product that can finally get me to totally switch off of AWS. Droplets Spaces Managed Databases <- RDS

Is Spaces fully compatible with the S3 API, in your experience?

yes it is

Re: Digital Ocean Managed Databases

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Post by joering2 » Thu, Oct 25, 2018, 10:11 PM UTC

ng3 wrote: post #163

joering2 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Glad you are having fun working on your after hours side project with DO. But please DO NOT host with DO if you plan to run a real production systems, build a company, hire people etc. I have never found a better company to spun off a server and play with some settings but when their algorithm decides there is something fishy, bye bye your account, servers, backups, you never going to see any of this ever again. The…

I just had my account locked with no warning or explanation. All 8 droplets were turned off. Account was unlocked 40 minutes later (also with no notification), and I could go in and turn droplets back on. Over 2 hours later and still no response to my support ticket asking why and how it happened. I'll be interested in the response I get. Unless there's a good reason why, or a plan to prevent the how from happening a…

Ufortunately nobody here is going to listen to you. A flock of DO fanboys downvoted my comments into obl livion despite I was just merely posting my experience. Some ambulance chaser even turned out to be a psychic reader because he knows better than me myself whether we been provided with GDPR related response or not, because - well, some DO CS worker told so on this forum.

I guess getting your droplets cutoff in the middle of business day and waiting 4 days for customer support copy and paste template answer has to happen to everyone before they themselves realize how crucial over the phone support is when it comes to hosting a production website. Its all good anyways.

Re: Digital Ocean Managed Databases

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Post by cristaloleg » Fri, Oct 26, 2018, 10:10 AM UTC

Ataraxy wrote: post #51

tyingq wrote: post #39

So now they have managed databases, load balancers, a cloud firewall that's partially VPC like, object storage and block storage. Assuming managed K8S is next, or maybe more "AZ/Region" h/a features. Great to have a new player coming into this space. Especially one with reasonable egress charges.

One thing I imagine that's coming at some point is their own implementation of "cloud functions".

Or logging, tracing, metrics

Re: Digital Ocean Managed Databases

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Post by l5870uoo9y » Fri, Oct 26, 2018, 1:52 PM UTC

james33 wrote: post #159

l5870uoo9y wrote: post #30

Anybody hosting an online business on Digital Ocean (or similar VPS)? All companies I see all use Heruko, AWS or GCP.

We've been slowly moving from AWS to DO over the last 6 months due to cost, performance and ease of use. We haven't had any issues and the support has been far superior as well. We wrote up a benchmarking comparison with some reasoning behind the switch: https://goldfirestudios.com/blog/150/Benchmarking-AWS-Digita... .

Great read, thanks for sharing.

Re: Digital Ocean Managed Databases

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Post by ljosa » Sat, Oct 27, 2018, 6:01 AM UTC

Something1234 wrote: post #109

ljosa wrote: post #104

How is DigitalOcean's resilience to DDoS attacks? After Linode's giant DDoS-related outages a couple of years ago, I moved everything to AWS on the theory that they (along with Google and Azure) would be better at mitigating similar attacks. Would be nice to have DO as an option.

Wait I thought AWS made you pay if you got hit with a DDoS or even a moderate amount of traffic. It's just there is no cap on costs if you have any kind of autoscaling enabled. There use to be many posts complaining about surprise charges on AWS.

I'm not worried my own instance/droplet getting DDoSed, but DO's network being taken offline for days because of a large-scale DDoS attack directed at another customer, as happened with Linode in 2016.

Re: Digital Ocean Managed Databases

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Post by anthony_barker » Sat, Oct 27, 2018, 2:42 PM UTC

adventured wrote: post #136

nnq wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...yeah, but if best value for money would be the absolute goal, DO itself is quite expensive compared to Hetzner or Linode last time I compared. Others like OVH or Scaleway could be even cheaper.

That heavily depends on where you're operating from. Ignoring the latency problems of using Hetzner et al. for a moment (if you're based on the US). Increasingly as the Internet fractures down lines of very distinctly separate legal structures nation to nation (or region to region), Hetzner, OVH and Scaleway are not going to be viable choices for most organizations in the US. Particularly as it pertains to production…

OVH has a montreal datacentre... 9.46ms in additional latency from nyc

Re: Digital Ocean Managed Databases

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Post by StudentStuff » Sat, Oct 27, 2018, 10:14 PM UTC

pdimitar wrote: post #149

StudentStuff wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DigitalOcean and Linode are currently the same price, what $5 buys you on DO gets you the same specs on Linode. Hetzner is not a reasonable choice for servers IMO, its akin to hosting in a datahole in Dallas, expect mixed bandwidth quality and questionable policies when issues arise. Comparatively, OVH looks stable. Scaleway doesn't take abuse reports seriously FYI, these attacks are still primarily coming from IPs a…

> Hetzner is not a reasonable choice for servers IMO, its akin to hosting in a datahole in Dallas, expect mixed bandwidth quality and questionable policies when issues arise. Really surprised to hear that, can you please elaborate? I only heard good things about them up until now... > Comparatively, OVH looks stable. What kind of stable do you mean? Bandwidth, latency, average I/O ops, CPU load?

Hetzner has had peering and jitter issues for years, in the past they would nullroute your server's IP for minor DOSes: https://www.reddit.com/r/seedboxes/comments/6fwphr/hetzner_i...

Hetzner does pay lip service to improving their network, but its akin to ColoCrossing, the internal network infrastructure is not amazing due to budget constraints, and the peering situation isn't apt to improve as its essentially money and politics that created it.

> What kind of stable do you mean (referring to OVH)? Bandwidth, latency, average I/O ops, CPU load?

I am referring to bandwidth, latency & jitter when comparing OVH to others. One thing OVH has nailed is keeping jitter minimal, and there has been significant optimizations for routes in their newer datacenters as time has gone on.

Mature OVH locations already have fairly good peering, to the point that many time sensitive workloads that can't be fronted/cached choose OVH in certain regions.

Its really sad to see Google Cloud and AWS flunking on this front, the lack of internal IPv6 support to the VM kills mobile performance, adding tens of milliseconds of latency and incurring a stateful connection in cellular carriers CGNAT (which gets killed after ~100 seconds), reducing performance and breaking long term open connections. Sending a packet over IPv6 to a cellphone is often faster than using push messaging on iOS or Android.

OVH Latency Optimizations: https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/2873074#Commen...