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Re: Digital Ocean Managed Databases

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Post by pdimitar »

agildehaus wrote: post #141
pdimitar wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am definitely on that particular boat. I'll add one more point: - Not very willing to setup DBs for several projects both paid and hobby because it's a fixed time sink. And before anybody tells me "but with this script it can take 2 minutes!" please don't forget that to learn to use your magical script I have to learn a few other things beforehand. (Although admittedly that's most likely a small time investment.)

For me it's mainly because I'm hopping around from database to database depending on the project and I can't keep everything in my head. The more "best practices" I can automate the better since it reduces cognitive load on my poor noggin.

Agreed. It's why I think us the programmers should eventually just settle for 5-10 languages globally and not touch anything else -- so [together with all the other problems that still exist] we can also finally get to writing the one UltimateDataMapper™ library that can work with whatever is out there.

I seriously can't be bothered to setup yet another cool and young database promising me quantum entanglement teleportation anymore. It's what is stopping me from trying 99.9% of what I see on the net.

I have a few scripts to which I just pass a DB name / user / pass and it brings me up (or tears down) a Postgres or MySQL/Maria database. I'd do the same for Elastic and a few others if I wasn't so lazy about it for years now.

Re: Digital Ocean Managed Databases

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Post by zifnab06 »

jarland wrote: post #86
esistgut wrote: post #29

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Our team is currently migrating our whole production system from Linode and GCP to Digital Ocean. Your comment is raising warnings, I'd like to hear more from DO itself.

I'd love to chat with you. If you have some time, send an email over to jdonnell@digitalocean.com and let's talk. I promise nothing but honesty, transparency, ideas, and maybe a few laughs :)

Any chance at an invite to the k8s beta for a large-ish open source project?

Re: Digital Ocean Managed Databases

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Post by greglindahl »

thirstybanach wrote: post #83
joering2 wrote: post #21

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Glad you are having fun working on your after hours side project with DO. But please DO NOT host with DO if you plan to run a real production systems, build a company, hire people etc. I have never found a better company to spun off a server and play with some settings but when their algorithm decides there is something fishy, bye bye your account, servers, backups, you never going to see any of this ever again. The…

I've had an experience like this but with less consequence. I was running a server years ago that scraped information from various cryptocurrency sites and it was flagged as fraudulent. Support refused to say what the issue was or offer temporary access to the server for data retrieval. This wasn't some cowboy unbounded crawler either, it was making very specific requests, around 1000 a day for around two weeks, prob…

I glanced at the DO terms of service, and crawling is prohibited.

Re: Digital Ocean Managed Databases

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Post by nnq »

adventured wrote: post #136
nnq wrote: post #103

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...yeah, but if best value for money would be the absolute goal, DO itself is quite expensive compared to Hetzner or Linode last time I compared. Others like OVH or Scaleway could be even cheaper.

That heavily depends on where you're operating from. Ignoring the latency problems of using Hetzner et al. for a moment (if you're based on the US). Increasingly as the Internet fractures down lines of very distinctly separate legal structures nation to nation (or region to region), Hetzner, OVH and Scaleway are not going to be viable choices for most organizations in the US. Particularly as it pertains to production…

...being physically in the EU, but building stuff that has the potential to have 80% of the customers in US, as long as traffic to end-users in US is good (it usually is unless you care about low latency for gaming, or real-time-video bandwith for video chat), I'd be in the opposite camp and see no reason to pick US-only hosts (DO has Amsterdam datacenters though, and AWS or Azure also have).

For everyone EXCEPT the US-based businesses, being multi-juristiction by default form the get-go is the default, you know. And for any small or freshly created projects GDPR compliance is pretty easy though. EU's new copyright laws though... those are an abomination, hope it changes before they start being enforced. Nowadays EU and US are probably equally horrible and competing at being the most horrible with respect to restricting internet freedoms.

What I'm actually looking for is hosting services that are outside of BOTH US and EU for some more side project ideas that risk falling on the wrong side of IP laws (US's DMCA and all are horrible too btw...). Something that would be both run by a non-US and non-EU company and with datacenters physically outside this space. Something in Middle-East, SE-Asia or Russia could have decent bandwith tot he rest of the civilized world and at the same time be blessed with the capability to delay/ignore/missfile etc. requests from US and EU authorities, giving you a time buffer to damage control if s really hits the fan, while serving end users in those regions. Maybe after Brexit even the UK could become a nice place with more freedom too.

Re: Digital Ocean Managed Databases

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Post by jarland »

zifnab06 wrote: post #152
jarland wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd love to chat with you. If you have some time, send an email over to jdonnell@digitalocean.com and let's talk. I promise nothing but honesty, transparency, ideas, and maybe a few laughs :)

Any chance at an invite to the k8s beta for a large-ish open source project?

Toss me an email, I'll see what I can do :)

Re: Digital Ocean Managed Databases

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Post by breakingcups »

thinkshiv wrote: post #34
bonsai80 wrote: post #9

I don't see any mention of the cost. Is that listed somewhere?

Hi there, this is Shiv - I am the VP of Product at DigitalOcean. Thanks for asking about pricing. We are still working out the pricing details. I can tell you it won't be just the cost of the Droplet because this is a managed service with lots of additional features that you would not get with the current Droplet product.

I'll second what others have said. Please consider a hobby plan. I have many proof-of-concept applications that don't require many resources at all but have the potential to suddenly get a lot bigger. Having a single stop shop where both types of projects are reasonably priced would be a godsend.

Re: Digital Ocean Managed Databases

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Post by teknico »

teilo wrote: post #5

It's nice that we are finally at a point where PG is the first offering, instead of the "Coming Soon."

It is nice indeed.

Also, PostgreSQL is described as powerful, reliable, full-featured, and fast, while MySQL as the most popular: that's all.

What is not said can be as important as what is.

Re: Digital Ocean Managed Databases

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Post by dsumenkovic »

tracker1 wrote: post #78
tnolet wrote: post #14

Just started using the new Kubernetes offering on Digital Ocean. Still in Beta but works pretty good. If this is a sign for how they will do databases, I'm all ears. Add CI/CD and you have a Heroku competitor.

You can do custom agents with Azure DevOps (formerly VSTS) or GitLab pretty easily. Haven't played with the new Github stuff. How are you liking the K8s on DO? I just got access a couple days ago but haven't touched it yet, I seem so out of the loop.

Thanks for mentioning GitLab. You can find more information about Auto Devops and creating Kubernetes clusters from withing GitLab at this doc https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/topics/autodevops/quick_start_gui...

Re: Digital Ocean Managed Databases

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Post by james33 »

l5870uoo9y wrote: post #30

Anybody hosting an online business on Digital Ocean (or similar VPS)? All companies I see all use Heruko, AWS or GCP.

We've been slowly moving from AWS to DO over the last 6 months due to cost, performance and ease of use. We haven't had any issues and the support has been far superior as well. We wrote up a benchmarking comparison with some reasoning behind the switch: https://goldfirestudios.com/blog/150/Benchmarking-AWS-Digita....
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