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Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by pyman »

h1d wrote: post #725
ouid wrote: post #723

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>switch to bing I can't believe that this needs to be said here, but don't use Microsoft products if your goal is to avoid dark patterns and user monetization. Microsoft is at least 10 times more corrupt than google.

Any source for the 10 times claim?

Microsoft has no ethics and as a monopoly conducted business in 3rd world countries in a shameful way.

You want sources? Search for:

- The Microsoft licensing corruption scandal

- Microsoft corruption Bulgaria

- Microsoft corruption Rumania

- Microsoft corruption Indonesia

- Microsoft corruption Argentina

...and the list goes on.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by neuronic »

rebolek wrote: post #724
neuronic wrote: post #438

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> Even the iPhone 7 is listed at £449, which is already £150 more than I paid for my Sony Xperia. In my own personal experience that would be some really well invested £150...

So I don't have to be poor to not be spied on. Got it. If I can afford just some cheap-ass phone, I deserve to be spied on.

I didn't say that. Complain with Android manufacturers or get a 5S or 6 series iPhone then.

Apple isn't responsible for the other manufacturers bullshit. At least Apple provides brand new OS software for 5 year old phones.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by close04 »

zentiggr wrote: post #373
close04 wrote: post #237

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There’s a difference between coming up with the requirement and the “order”, and implementing it because that’s your job. And don’t say they should quit. This isn’t the solution. At some point they will find an engineer to do it anyway. The solution should be applied at the source.

> At some point they will find an engineer to do it anyway. And at some point when is thoroughly obviously malicious, we can expect/hope/encourage them to lose customers until they collapse. The rats will move on as well, but at least the more virtuous employees can be elsewhere before the end implosion.

That's just addressing the issue in a really tangential way. You want to fix it, go for the people who come up with the idea. Even a company that employs almost exclusively ethical engineers will still have a few willing to compromise. Go for the head and the body will follow. Change starts at the top.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by dang »

taneq wrote: post #256
braythwayt wrote: post #239

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One more thing (apologies): If you take the engineer off the hook because “they can’t change things,” you know what inevitably happens? You discover that the product and eng managers can’t change things either. In theory, maybe, but in practice they are given accountability for revenue and growth targets, so what choice do they have? Let’s move up the ladder. Can we blame the directors and ELT. No, the markets hold t…

Sounds like you have a pretty good view from up there on your high horse.

Please don't.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by pmlnr »

snaky wrote: post #359
pmlnr wrote: post #229

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> any Google service except Play Yeah, that's enough, that logs you in on google play services, which has god mode on your phone.

Having play services ( https://github.com/opengapps ) on LineageOS is not like that. You can go to Privacy Guard and deny any permissions from Play Services.

Sure. Is it still in /system/priv-apps? If yes, you're wrong, it still has god mode.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by mrbeehive »

bamboozled wrote: post #430
justaman wrote: post #390

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I first tried DDG years ago. It really wasn't great. The results and astetics were not up to snuff. I went back to google. About a year ago I decided to try DDG again. I've been using DDG ever since. Maybe once a month I'll google something. I use chrome only for google products like gmail.

DDG sucks and hasn’t really improved at all. I’ve used it for a longtime but I use bangs endlessly. Unless you can provide some quantifiable metric to prove its “getting better” then it’s delusion getting the better of you. DDG uses other search engines for results (such as bing), so unless you agree Bing is improving, it’s just a placebo. DDG is only useful because we can all fall back on g!. It’s sad but true. Ther…

I'd argue that bang searches are enough of a feature that it's worth switching anyway, even if you end up falling back on Google.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by gjm11 »

no_carrier wrote: post #757
gjm11 wrote: post #596

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"Resistance to copying omni-bar"? It seems to work OK for me. What are you trying to do and how does Firefox resist it? "Crashes every day"? I can't remember the last time I had a Firefox crash; maybe this is OS-dependent. (I use it on Windows and on FreeBSD; how about you?) "The UX is bad compared to Chromium" -- obviously if you're used to one program's UX then another's may seem obtuse. What about the Firefox UX i…

I'm one of those people who can't use Firefox thanks to the frequent crashing. It happens for me at least once a day, particularly when I have the same site open in multiple tabs. I get a yellow bar saying a script is slowing down this website, and ALL the tabs lock up thanks to it. If you're lucky enough to kill all the impacted tabs (you're rarely that lucky, it's that unresponsive) your browsing experience from th…

Interesting! I occasionally get the "a script is slowing down this website" message, but not nearly so often and killing the affected tabs seems to work OK. I guess some pages are super-extra-bad for Firefox. Or perhaps some extension you have is causing grief? (Though that should be much less able to happen in the era of WebExtensions.)

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by snarfybarfy »

mangecoeur wrote: post #36

Seriously don't know why anyone is surprised that a browser built by an ad-tech company pushes the user tracking tech of that company. Just use Firefox and have done with it - there's been a series of these kinds of posts over the last couple of days with people suggesting insane workaround hacks instead of just changing their browser. P.S. if you keep chrome because some websites only work properly there, maybe y'al…

But they are NOT any old ad-tech company.

They were built and grew out of their initial 'don't be evil' culture.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by _Tev »

stickfigure wrote: post #799
darawk wrote: post #792

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Logging into your browser is not the same as logging into all the sites you use. And you certainly don't need browser login to enable it - just use OAuth. This is a solved problem.

I suggest you try spending a few hours in my support channels. The problem is that users are confused by the fact that "logging into your browser is not the same as logging into all the sites you use". You can literally sign into chrome with one google account and then sign into google with a totally different google account. Futhermore chrome has different "people" (browsing profiles) which confuses them even more;…

It seems to me like you provided no arguments how is login-into-browser feature clarifying things. You even mentioned people being _confused_ about it.

People don't need to understand oauth to use it.

(and before you pull that one again - I am supporting technically-illiterate people quite often)

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by vezycash »

sjwright wrote: post #790
gergles wrote: post #680

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I don't think it's unfair; I can disable automatic software updates. I can't disable Firefox installing secret extensions behind my back.

That is a logically incoherent statement. The only mechanism Mozilla has for "installing secret extensions" is via software updates. If you turn that off, they can't install anything.

At least with Firefox you can disable both individual extension updates and browser updates.

Chrome on the other hand removed that option years ago. Deleting Chrome Update's scheduled-task is my workaround.

I don't recall if extension updates can be disabled in chrome.

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