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Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by bradleyankrom »

dev_dull wrote: post #587
Pxtl wrote: post #565

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume this is the engineering at work. "Okay, users are confused by how they're logged into Google but not Chrome, or Chrome but not Google - let's make them one and the same". "Okay, but once you're logged into Chrome now, every post we check to see if we have the Google cookies to keep that sync... so that means when you clear the cookies the Google ones will automagically reappear" "Ugh, let's just notify the u…

Hackernews needs it’s own version of infowars where people can declare and believe in their most absurd and cynical conspiracy theories regarding tech.

as long as it also pushes dubious health supplmenets

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by spurcell93 »

groovybits wrote: post #580
netcraft wrote: post #563

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Damn, that sounds like a lot of work and still easy to make a mistake and let something through.

The action to resolve all of those is to use an AOSP ROM and do not sign into Google. Thats it. The hard part is de-coupling yourself from Google services, if you rely on them. That may be solved via self-hosted services. See: https://github.com/Kickball/awesome-selfhosted

This is one thing that I genuinely have never understood: if it's this challenging (and effectively impossible for non tech savvy users) to make android devices safe / private / secure and also feature-complete - why, oh why are so many people still using them? This is not me fanboying Apple, it's just sort of mind boggling to me.

This is from someone who used a nexus 6p for two years, and some older stuff before that - but who has recently switched back to iPhone for its ease of use and privacy stance.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by beavis2 »

n42 wrote: post #570
beavis2 wrote: post #525

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"Sorry boss, I won't be fixing BUG-332 - I don't use that browser"

That was not what I was suggesting. Fact of the matter is that it is easier to get it right the first time in the browser you work in than the browser you don’t. A growing backlog of Chrome bugs and a shrinking backlog of Firefox/whatever else browser front end developers switch to with product teams pushing feature development over bug fixing and then suddenly Chrome is the “unreliable” one.

Sorry for being flippant. I knew what you meant, and I do agree with you.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by reitanqild »

breggles wrote: post #47
peteretep wrote: post #39

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You can, you just have to mess around with styling manually. There are quite a few pages on Google telling you how to do it

Irony?

Feel free to google it in any other search engine :)

https://www.qwant.com/?q=Remove%20firefox%20tabs%20tree%20st...

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Remove+firefox+tabs+tree+style+tab...

https://www.bing.com/search?q=Remove+firefox+tabs+tree+style...

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by kerng »

I can't help to think that the new Google's CEO is not setting the right standards and values for the company. Google's been on a roll recently with privacy violations and related "doing evil" news. Someone on top must be encouraging it, or at least not hold people accountable.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by gjm11 »

dlgtho wrote: post #503
Sharlin wrote: post #109

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There are really very few things Chrome is better at than Firefox these days.

I tried to switch to Firefox lately after this new speedy version had been released. I really underestimated how good Chromium is. Basic stuff, like in page search(Ctrl+F) is awful after Chromium experience. Resistance to copying omni-bar is silly. Crashes every day. The UX is bad compared to Chromium. Spent month dealing with it and just abandoned this endeavor. Really sad, i want Firefox to be better.

"Resistance to copying omni-bar"? It seems to work OK for me. What are you trying to do and how does Firefox resist it?

"Crashes every day"? I can't remember the last time I had a Firefox crash; maybe this is OS-dependent. (I use it on Windows and on FreeBSD; how about you?)

"The UX is bad compared to Chromium" -- obviously if you're used to one program's UX then another's may seem obtuse. What about the Firefox UX is actually bad as opposed to different? (For what it's worth, to me FF and Chrome seem very similar to use.)

(I think I agree about ctrl-F, which on some particular pages seems to misbehave on Firefox in ways I don't understand.)

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by kerng »

Pxtl wrote: post #565
drawkbox wrote: post #63

Another confirmation that engineers and product developers are no longer in control at Google. Engineering and product first is how Google won the game initially, very easy to forget that when the money rolls in massively and the power structures move away from those driving forces. Microsoft already went through this engineering/product growth to bizdev/marketing control to stagnation and is already in the return to…

I assume this is the engineering at work. "Okay, users are confused by how they're logged into Google but not Chrome, or Chrome but not Google - let's make them one and the same". "Okay, but once you're logged into Chrome now, every post we check to see if we have the Google cookies to keep that sync... so that means when you clear the cookies the Google ones will automagically reappear" "Ugh, let's just notify the u…

If that is the case, I recommend some basic privacy and security training for every engineer. I believe the root cause at Google is elsewhere though, its goal is to make money, lots of it.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by throwawaymath »

paulie_a wrote: post #520
duxup wrote: post #409

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Why not?

It just simply doesn't set a candidate apart from anyone else. Just like what school someone went to. I simply don't care if it was an ivy league school or local school. It doesn't matter. what really matters is their accomplishments. Trading on a name is not going to work for me.

But since you mentioned this is your opinion, you do acknowledge that these forms of signalling are effective for most other hiring managers, right? Your view is pretty atypical.

Not to be blunt, but your perspective on Google employees is irrelevant in the context of how they're perceived by the broader market. I think that's why your other comment is being downvoted; it seems like what you're saying isn't wrong per se, it's just inconsequential to the job prospects Google employees actually have. Even though you're a hiring manager and don't personally consider Google employment to be a plus, most other hiring managers really do.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by terragon »

pnenp wrote: post #22
NeedMoreTea wrote: post #4

Are they trying to promote Firefox or something? Chrome seems to be trying quite hard to annoy people enough to actually uninstall it.

Worked for me. Switched to FF because I just can't trust Chrome anymore. FF feels like a breath of fresh air.

Yeah, same here. Though I was becoming increasingly uneasy over the years, this was the final straw. Thanks, Chrome for making this an easy decision.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by thecatspaw »

wu-ikkyu wrote: post #579
thecatspaw wrote: post #463

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So, assuming you're tight on money, the job market is looking crap, but you got lucky and got a well paying job. Chances of getting another job are slim. You have a few responsibilities, a wife, say 2 kids, maybe even someone who needs medical bills paid. Do you just say "fuck it", and quit, ignoring all your responsibilities? Over cookies? Of course, when its not about cookies, but about something more drastic, say…

>Do you just say "fuck it", and quit, ignoring all your responsibilities? Over cookies? If you follow the news about Google at all, you'd know its obviously not just about cookies. >Of course, when its not about cookies, but about something more drastic It's about the the greatest surveillance apparatus in history encroaching towards total informational awareness.

for the individual developer getting asked to implement this, it is over cookies. The decision is "Do I implement this, or do I tell my kids I dont know how to feed them"
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