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Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Google has relatively few ways to actually give them money directly for software and media. There's Google Apps (assuming you aren't a grandfathered free customer from back when it was free), and I guess YouTube Red, and, um.... is there any other way to actually pay money to Google for services rendered? I honestly can't think of another option. (I'm ignoring their hardware here because of course that's not free, an…

>Google has relatively few ways to actually give them money directly for software and media. Doesn't Google sell music, e-books, and movies/TV through Google Play? They also have Google Play Music as a subscription service. I was counting the Play Store as buying applications from Google, although it isn't Google's first-party software.

They do, but the context we're talking about is paying Google for Google software, not using Google as a storefront for buying other people's software.

I didn't realize Google Play had their own subscription music service. Good to know.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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post #677

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This idealism reminds me of a post I saw here a long time ago about a software developer union. One of their stated goals was "to advocate for people whose job was displaced by automation". Both read to me immediately like high octane, weapons grade, 200 proof naiveté. "Everyone at UPS, for anything they do, should ask a simple question on any proposal ... how does this impact bicycle couriers?" "Everyone at Amazon,…

> The organization you're talking about is diametrically configured to oppose the thing you're saying they should be mindful of True. That's precisely why engineering ethics is our last hope.

Mhm. In the same way that imbuing stoats with a sense of empathy will help restore endangered bird numbers.

As another comment stated, direct governance in the form of regulation is the appropriate tool for this problem. Other options, especially hoping for an application of a particular ethical framework, is dreams.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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lol, nope. Like, what unit does one even measure corruption in? GP appears to be expressing a rote dislike of MS uncritically carried through from the 90s. Nowadays they're nowhere close to Google or FB in terms of EITHER anti-competitive business practices or user/consumer/human hostile product designs.

> what unit does one even measure corruption in? kiloBrutus

This one is measuring traeason, corruption needs a different measure. I think that would be MegaCrassus If you stick with Rome.

https://1.cdn.edl.io/yteBVOxUCXm1v0nlnSH3aSYPHggabvUHBwPAXBl...

One needs a big scale unit because the subject of 'Microsoft' and 'Google' does imply a very big scale...

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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post #747

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lol, nope. Like, what unit does one even measure corruption in? GP appears to be expressing a rote dislike of MS uncritically carried through from the 90s. Nowadays they're nowhere close to Google or FB in terms of EITHER anti-competitive business practices or user/consumer/human hostile product designs.

I suggest dollars would fit the situation

That's odd, I thought dollars were a unit of virtuousness. /s

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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https://www.searx.me/

I just tried this and got an error that says "Error! -search error" when searching for the term "angular directives". Not very compelling.

I received a similar error using Chrome, then tried in Firefox and am now getting search results.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Seriously don't know why anyone is surprised that a browser built by an ad-tech company pushes the user tracking tech of that company. Just use Firefox and have done with it - there's been a series of these kinds of posts over the last couple of days with people suggesting insane workaround hacks instead of just changing their browser. P.S. if you keep chrome because some websites only work properly there, maybe y'al…

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Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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This is a toothless, short-sighted, and self-serving philosophy that does not solve any problem. I will explain, but first let it be known that I am a scorned Google user. I jumped on board the magic carpet of every Google service as soon as I could and loved it the whole time, but it has become clear to me that Google and my values no longer align. So I'm leaving. However, telling the workers to "just quit" won't so…

To be specific, my words above are: “If you can’t change your organization, change organizations.” If the argument is that by staying they can create change, our views are compatible. If the argument is that “although they may try, they can’t change anything, but they should still stay,” then my argument is that they have chosen to be complicit, and it is appropriate to hold them to account. Nobody is really telling…

> To be specific, my words above are:

> “If you can’t change your organization, change organizations.”

> Nobody is really telling anyone to quit, but the argument above is that if they don’t quit, they cannot be held accountable. I reject that notion.

This is a false dichotomy.

The world exists in grey areas. Just because you are passionate about security and privacy does not mean joe the google engineer is culpable for the _industry accepted_ practices you disagree with.

People are fallible and so are companies. If everyone had to change-or-quit every company they worked at, no one would work anywhere. Your philosophy is not sustainable, logical, or implementable. In the spectrum of immoralities, fingerprinting users is pretty far down on the list, although it is certainly present.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Seriously don't know why anyone is surprised that a browser built by an ad-tech company pushes the user tracking tech of that company. Just use Firefox and have done with it - there's been a series of these kinds of posts over the last couple of days with people suggesting insane workaround hacks instead of just changing their browser. P.S. if you keep chrome because some websites only work properly there, maybe y'al…

Dropping chrome is not enough. Switch to bing (Just as good as G), or ddg if you really want. Then ditch android which is the spy in your pocket. If you're installing G analytics for clients then choose an alternative (I'm open to suggestions here). It's really time to disentangle ourselves from google. They've quietly and effectively insinuated themselves across the web. Enough is enough.

Google-less AOSP is as bad to Google ad-efforts as completely adblocked iOS, isn't it?

+1 for open source I guess.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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I wanna switch go Firefox so badly. But I use Linux, MacOS, and Windows and Firefox still does not support keychain on MacOS. I'm not gonna input my master password every time I open up my browser.

Or use a good cross-platform (Linux included) open-source password manager. For example: https://bitwarden.com ;)

Does Firefox offer integration with this for the master password? How does this work exactly on iOS?
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