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Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by swingline-747 »

mangecoeur wrote: post #36

Seriously don't know why anyone is surprised that a browser built by an ad-tech company pushes the user tracking tech of that company. Just use Firefox and have done with it - there's been a series of these kinds of posts over the last couple of days with people suggesting insane workaround hacks instead of just changing their browser. P.S. if you keep chrome because some websites only work properly there, maybe y'al…

Firefox is a lot faster on startup and browsing than it used to be. It's now damn usable.

I'll keep Chrome around, like Opera, for browser testing.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by swingline-747 »

ux-app wrote: post #62
mangecoeur wrote: post #36

Seriously don't know why anyone is surprised that a browser built by an ad-tech company pushes the user tracking tech of that company. Just use Firefox and have done with it - there's been a series of these kinds of posts over the last couple of days with people suggesting insane workaround hacks instead of just changing their browser. P.S. if you keep chrome because some websites only work properly there, maybe y'al…

Dropping chrome is not enough. Switch to bing (Just as good as G), or ddg if you really want. Then ditch android which is the spy in your pocket. If you're installing G analytics for clients then choose an alternative (I'm open to suggestions here). It's really time to disentangle ourselves from google. They've quietly and effectively insinuated themselves across the web. Enough is enough.

Bing? Smh. No, no and hell no. DuckDuckGo all the way.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by morganvachon »

ux-app wrote: post #62
mangecoeur wrote: post #36

Seriously don't know why anyone is surprised that a browser built by an ad-tech company pushes the user tracking tech of that company. Just use Firefox and have done with it - there's been a series of these kinds of posts over the last couple of days with people suggesting insane workaround hacks instead of just changing their browser. P.S. if you keep chrome because some websites only work properly there, maybe y'al…

Dropping chrome is not enough. Switch to bing (Just as good as G), or ddg if you really want. Then ditch android which is the spy in your pocket. If you're installing G analytics for clients then choose an alternative (I'm open to suggestions here). It's really time to disentangle ourselves from google. They've quietly and effectively insinuated themselves across the web. Enough is enough.

> Switch to bing

I've found Startpage and its sister site IxQuick to be a good alternative to Google. Same search results with a lot of detritus filtered out, keeps you out of Google's search bubble, and it has built in proxy features.

Instead of Bing, which tracks you for monetization on Microsoft's behalf (though I trust Microsoft with my information more than Google), try DuckDuckGo. It uses Bing as a back end but, like Startpage, proxies the query so your information and identity never hits Microsoft's servers. It's also a much cleaner page code-wise than any other search engine I've seen. It often comes up with more relevant results than Startpage; I find myself often searching both for the same subject so I don't miss what I'm looking for.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by binomialxenon »

eridius wrote: post #702
binomialxenon wrote: post #654

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Google does make a ton of money from ads and tracking, but how do they not "sell software and media" too? They sell apps and media in the same manner that Apple does.

Google has relatively few ways to actually give them money directly for software and media. There's Google Apps (assuming you aren't a grandfathered free customer from back when it was free), and I guess YouTube Red, and, um.... is there any other way to actually pay money to Google for services rendered? I honestly can't think of another option. (I'm ignoring their hardware here because of course that's not free, an…

>Google has relatively few ways to actually give them money directly for software and media.

Doesn't Google sell music, e-books, and movies/TV through Google Play? They also have Google Play Music as a subscription service. I was counting the Play Store as buying applications from Google, although it isn't Google's first-party software.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by morganvachon »

benjaminjackman wrote: post #365
Yetanfou wrote: post #346

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If you have your own server somewhere or access to such managed by someone you trust may I suggest using a meta-search engine like Searx [1] instead? That way you get to swat a whole cloud of flies in one fell swoop: 1: no personal tracking or profiling data for the search providers 2: no 'personalised' search 3: search results from several providers condensed into one list, i.e. more results for the same query You c…

I really wish iOS allowed for custom search engines, it's hard coded to just google, yahoo, bing, and duckduckgo because then that would allow for this roll-your-own pattern to be accessible when on the phone / tablet (if using an iPhone/iPad).

It's only Safari on iOS that doesn't let you change search engines. If you install Firefox you can install any search engine you want and you can customize the search URL. It still uses the Safari engine under the hood, but the user facing bits are a condensed version of desktop Firefox, including tracking protection and sync.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by r00fus »

perfunctory wrote: post #57
pnenp wrote: post #22

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Worked for me. Switched to FF because I just can't trust Chrome anymore. FF feels like a breath of fresh air.

I really puzzles me how could anyone have ever trusted Chrome.

Originally when they created a webkit (instead of blink) engine, it was a bit more above-board.

But then hubris and greed have done their usual job now that Chrome is the default.

Personally browse using Safari + FF on macOS.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by MFLoon »

h1d wrote: post #725
ouid wrote: post #723

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>switch to bing I can't believe that this needs to be said here, but don't use Microsoft products if your goal is to avoid dark patterns and user monetization. Microsoft is at least 10 times more corrupt than google.

Any source for the 10 times claim?

lol, nope. Like, what unit does one even measure corruption in?

GP appears to be expressing a rote dislike of MS uncritically carried through from the 90s. Nowadays they're nowhere close to Google or FB in terms of EITHER anti-competitive business practices or user/consumer/human hostile product designs.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by swingline-747 »

bamboozled wrote: post #430
justaman wrote: post #390

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I first tried DDG years ago. It really wasn't great. The results and astetics were not up to snuff. I went back to google. About a year ago I decided to try DDG again. I've been using DDG ever since. Maybe once a month I'll google something. I use chrome only for google products like gmail.

DDG sucks and hasn’t really improved at all. I’ve used it for a longtime but I use bangs endlessly. Unless you can provide some quantifiable metric to prove its “getting better” then it’s delusion getting the better of you. DDG uses other search engines for results (such as bing), so unless you agree Bing is improving, it’s just a placebo. DDG is only useful because we can all fall back on g!. It’s sad but true. Ther…

Back the fatalism FUD truck up from going off the cliff with baseless, whiny negativity...

DDG is so good that I use GOOG maybe once a year as a secondary search engine. And I started with GS since it had a comically-terrible interface in 2000. I switched because they went evil and DDG was more than good enough being privacy-focused. The !bang searches are a big innovation and timesaver that sealed the deal.

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by jvz »

Grimm665 wrote: post #652
gjm11 wrote: post #601

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Do you mean Firefox doesn't have a way to return the zoom level to its default? (It has two; you can do ctrl-0 or you can click on the zoom-level indicator in the URL bar.) Or do you mean you can't tell it to default to a zoom level that isn't 100%? (That seems to be true.) I confess that's never a thing it's occurred to me to want; it feels like if I wanted every website's text to look larger or smaller, I'd probabl…

This has been a sticking point for me too when trying to transition to FF from Chrome. My main monitor is a 4k 24-inch, and at that pixel density, the Windows HiDPI scaling isn't always enough to get the text the correct size for comfortable viewing. For text-heavy sites like HN, Reddit, and Wikipedia, being able to set a default 125% zoom in the browser is very nice, while still being able to keep the default zoom f…

Why not increase the minimum font size instead?

Re: Chrome 69 will keep Google Cookies when you tell it to delete all cookies

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Post by swingline-747 »

jstanley wrote: post #452
bamboozled wrote: post #430

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DDG sucks and hasn’t really improved at all. I’ve used it for a longtime but I use bangs endlessly. Unless you can provide some quantifiable metric to prove its “getting better” then it’s delusion getting the better of you. DDG uses other search engines for results (such as bing), so unless you agree Bing is improving, it’s just a placebo. DDG is only useful because we can all fall back on g!. It’s sad but true. Ther…

> Unless you can provide some quantifiable metric to prove its “getting better” then it's delusion This doesn't prove anything. Unless you can provide some metric to say it's not good, then it's delusion getting the better of you . DuckDuckGo is good enough for everyday usage, for me. It has been this way for well over a year. I never use bangs.

To me, it comes across like a skewed, disproportionately-negative cognitive distortion, of what I won't speculate because I won't armchair/keyboard psychoanalyze.
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