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Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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Hopefully it's just a 'soft' delete, and this can be undone. I can't imagine FB actually hard-deleting any information that might help them in terms of ads etc.

It's 99.9999% not a hard delete. They have fail overs and multiple backups.

Especially since it is practically impossible to delete anything there intentionally.

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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post #82

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I'd assume posts made with the API would exist still on Twitter.

The fb discussion threads those posts initiated are gone, though. If this happened to me I'd be extremely upset: I've had many very good discussions on Facebook that it would hurt to lose.

Another angle is that I would like to have the right to demand that FB remove any and all mention of me, my handle(s), or posts I have made on any non-FB property.

I would want to ensure that FB can't host data which I submit to twitter/reddit/HN without providing me the authority to be able to request its removal from FB.

I'd think that this could set some precedent to allow for this.

Clearly, though, the FB anti-stance would be that it cannot do so in such granular fashion, which clearly is not true given the fact that any data/posts are tied to both source site and source person...

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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post #82

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I'd assume posts made with the API would exist still on Twitter.

The fb discussion threads those posts initiated are gone, though. If this happened to me I'd be extremely upset: I've had many very good discussions on Facebook that it would hurt to lose.

I'm guessing it may be temporary. Either a by-product of change or intentional(wipe Facebook of the tweets to drive home the message they've eliminated this feature, then silently start displays the old ones in a few months). Seems unlikely that Facebook deleted something.

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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Facebook did not purposely remove the cross-posted tweets. Twitter removed their app from the Facebook platform which had this as an unfortunate result. Source: https://www.axios.com/how-cross-posted-tweets-disappeared-fr...

> Twitter removed their app from the Facebook platform which had this as an unfortunate result.

> TechCrunch also heard from a source with understanding of the situation that the deletion of the app took Facebook by surprise, as well as the fact that Twitter didn’t immediately tell them to restore the content

These statements seem to indicate that Twitter was to blame for removing their app. However, from the axios link:

> ...the Twitter app for the Facebook platform was essentially made useless earlier this month once Facebook officially removed the ability to cross-post.

> With the app's sole function eliminated, Twitter decided to delete it from the Facebook platform, having no reason to think that doing so would remove old tweets that were cross-posted.

> It's not clear whether Facebook knew this would happen, either.

Looks like Facebook did not know that Twitter would delete their app, and Twitter did not know that deleting the app would delete the content. I can understand why Facebook would have such a policy for deleted apps, and I can understand why Twitter doesn't want to have a "dead" app that's active on the Facebook platform. They probably just ought to have spoken to each other.

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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I feel like you're conflating what I said with a sibling comment. Paying has nothing to do with my point, and I don't see what social contract that Facebook is obligated to host anything and everything they once allowed forever.

They built the feature that people's post histories stay forever. They promoted it, with things like memory posts. People used it with the expectation that it would stay. They took the posts down, with zero warning, zero hey we're deprecating this, back up your things. If your stuff was taken down and you care about it, one would hope that you would trust facebook less.

Yes I agree but didn't this just happen? It's not like they actually deleted anything, maybe it's an initial twitter purge for impact, and they'll restore the old ones after some breif period? Toward your point, Facebook is currently promoting themselves as newly invigorated protectors of your data, which certainly implys retention.

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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post #91

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The big problem with email lock-in is that when you switch providers, you can't take your old address with you. Best case, you can set up forwarding. Worst case, if your account just gets deleted, or the provider goes out of business, everyone who only knows your old address cannot contact you anymore. This, in turn, means that even when considering non-free email service providers, you need some reassurance that pro…

Transitions aren't really too difficult so long as proper steps are taken: - Notify your contacts of your address change. - Set your old address to forward to your new address and always reply to emails from your new one. - After 2 months, set your old email to auto-reply to all messages saying that you have changed your address and the old one will soon be deactivated. - Finally, turn deactivate the old email. It's…

It doesn't work if you suddenly lost your access without prior notice.

I have documented a few cases of such unnoticed termination in my blog post:

https://paradite.com/2016/02/18/stay-independent-problems-wi...

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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Facebook did not purposely remove the cross-posted tweets. Twitter removed their app from the Facebook platform which had this as an unfortunate result. Source: https://www.axios.com/how-cross-posted-tweets-disappeared-fr...

The title has been changed to "Twitter’s deletion of its Facebook app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear" on techcrunch. The Hacker News title should be updated as well.

It should, but since the mods appear to be in one geo, HN goes unmoderated half of the time.

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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post #189

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The title has been changed to "Twitter’s deletion of its Facebook app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear" on techcrunch. The Hacker News title should be updated as well.

It should, but since the mods appear to be in one geo, HN goes unmoderated half of the time.

Not everything is 24/7. Sorry bub.
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