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Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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Post by kenjackson »

raphaelrk wrote: post #72
MBCook wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If only all this removed content already existed somewhere else. Like a different extremely popular social network. Like the one all the content was actually posted on originally. I guess I don’t see why this is such a big deal other than as a generic opportunity to be mad at Facebook.

I and many others I know post tweets and have them cross posted to Facebook. They get relatively little attention on Twitter, the likes and comments from friends on Facebook was what made them meaningful. Those likes and comments are gone now. It feels sort of like Facebook came and ripped pages out of my diary.

Curious, why use Twitter to post them if they get little attention on Twitter

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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Post by jefftk »

joe_the_user wrote: post #70
int_19h wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We're talking about Facebook refusing to keep reposting stuff from another site. We're talking about how Facebook not only turned off the API that enabled reposting, but removed all past posts that were made via that API. Which, at that point, was exactly the kind of user data that they had responsibility for.

I'd assume posts made with the API would exist still on Twitter.

The fb discussion threads those posts initiated are gone, though.

If this happened to me I'd be extremely upset: I've had many very good discussions on Facebook that it would hurt to lose.

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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Post by mb_72 »

AdamTReineke wrote: post #6

Holy shit... Literally ten years of Facebook posts and people's comments on them just up and disappeared from my profile. How is that ok?

Hopefully it's just a 'soft' delete, and this can be undone. I can't imagine FB actually hard-deleting any information that might help them in terms of ads etc.

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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Post by dasil003 »

taurath wrote: post #74
dasil003 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm all in favor of restricting what companies do with our data, but mandating that they continue to host everything we post ad infinitum? That doesn't seem reasonable to me.

At the very least they're completely breaking the social contract they have with their users. Users post their data, they get the service, in return for Facebook making money off of that data. If Facebook decides to stop providing a service that keeps people on Facebook, Facebook will stop getting the data. Users paid for the service with their data, which Facebook can turn into money. The idea that users don't "pay"…

I feel like you're conflating what I said with a sibling comment. Paying has nothing to do with my point, and I don't see what social contract that Facebook is obligated to host anything and everything they once allowed forever.

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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Post by yellowapple »

MBCook wrote: post #10
Alex3917 wrote: post #3

This is pretty crazy. For people whose job is social media, this is basically the equivalent of Github just arbitrarily deciding they're going to delete all of your startup's source code without telling anyone in advance, or like Google Docs just deciding to disappear all your spreadsheets. With only a couple months until election season, Facebook is now literally editing politician's pages and deleting the campaign…

No, it’s the equivalent of GitHub deciding to remove all the code that you automatically re-post from SourceForge. In what way, AT ALL, was this this feature good for FACEBOOK? It meant people could be “on” Facebook and “active” without ever actually logging in or using the app or engaging in any way. Why would they want to just be a dumping ground for copies of another social network’s posts? I guess I’m surprised t…

It's more the equivalent of GitHub deleting repos that are mirrors of other repos on other sites. This is something a lot of high-profile FOSS projects do, including Linux, to get more eyes on the code and make it accessible to as many people as possible.

Why should Facebook care where the post came from? It's still a post, and still gives Facebook the same access to the same data that it harvests and monetizes in the same way.

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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Post by Dylan16807 »

dasil003 wrote: post #64
jdc wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly as much as Facebook would allow them to.

That's a clever re-framing, let me try: how many users would Facebook have if they charged $0.01 to sign up?

In terms of money, as in "pretend you can insert your penny into the front of the computer", probably about the same number.

(But even a 0¢ credit card requirement would have an enormous negative impact.)

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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Post by nradov »

Alex3917 wrote: post #3

This is pretty crazy. For people whose job is social media, this is basically the equivalent of Github just arbitrarily deciding they're going to delete all of your startup's source code without telling anyone in advance, or like Google Docs just deciding to disappear all your spreadsheets. With only a couple months until election season, Facebook is now literally editing politician's pages and deleting the campaign…

I find it impossible to sympathize with anyone who considers social media a "job".

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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Post by ubernostrum »

erikpukinskis wrote: post #48

I don’t know what people are complaining about. You should’ve known when you signed up for America Online that it wasn’t the “full internet”. If you want that you should buy dialup from a real ISP.

AOL was an actual ISP. They just also had a walled-garden thing they pushed you to stay in. But you could go visit whatever sites you wanted in a regular web browser, you could do FTP and mail and stuff.

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Post by 8_hours_ago »

nradov wrote: post #87
Alex3917 wrote: post #3

This is pretty crazy. For people whose job is social media, this is basically the equivalent of Github just arbitrarily deciding they're going to delete all of your startup's source code without telling anyone in advance, or like Google Docs just deciding to disappear all your spreadsheets. With only a couple months until election season, Facebook is now literally editing politician's pages and deleting the campaign…

I find it impossible to sympathize with anyone who considers social media a "job".

Why so? Do you think marketing is not a real job?

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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Post by [deleted] »

nradov wrote: post #87
Alex3917 wrote: post #3

This is pretty crazy. For people whose job is social media, this is basically the equivalent of Github just arbitrarily deciding they're going to delete all of your startup's source code without telling anyone in advance, or like Google Docs just deciding to disappear all your spreadsheets. With only a couple months until election season, Facebook is now literally editing politician's pages and deleting the campaign…

I find it impossible to sympathize with anyone who considers social media a "job".

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