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Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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Post by TheSpiceIsLife »

bduerst wrote: post #24
ravenstine wrote: post #22

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Or just go back to email, which is what I've done. Proton Mail is an excellent alternative to Gmail, and pretty much everyone, even Richard Stallman, has an email address. Reaching out to individuals or sending out a general update every once in a while will suffice. Unless one's friends are really immature, people will hesitate to send you photos of their food or their thoughts on some trite opinion piece.

What's wrong with GMail? Google stopped mining it last year: https://blog.google/products/gmail/g-suite-gains-traction-in...

All the other reasons you shouldn’t use a “free” email service.

You can be locked out of your account for arbitrary-reason-of-the-day and good luck finding a contact number or email address for support.

If email is important to you, you probably shouldn’t be using a “free” service.

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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Post by dasil003 »

shawn wrote: post #35
MBCook wrote: post #10

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No, it’s the equivalent of GitHub deciding to remove all the code that you automatically re-post from SourceForge. In what way, AT ALL, was this this feature good for FACEBOOK? It meant people could be “on” Facebook and “active” without ever actually logging in or using the app or engaging in any way. Why would they want to just be a dumping ground for copies of another social network’s posts? I guess I’m surprised t…

It's the other way around. Why does Facebook think it has the right to remove years of their users' contributions? As the years march on, I think we'll see more and more data protection laws in favor of users rather than companies. Data is the new uranium, not the new oil. It needs to be protected and taken seriously. You can argue that it's Facebook's site and that they can do whatever they want. I argue that they c…

I'm all in favor of restricting what companies do with our data, but mandating that they continue to host everything we post ad infinitum? That doesn't seem reasonable to me.

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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Post by nordsieck »

aikah wrote: post #30
nordsieck wrote: post #13

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> Make your own website and you won’t have to worry about this. GAE/Github + Hugo is remarkably friendly and low maintenance.

> GAE/Github + Hugo is remarkably friendly and low maintenance. And how do you make your static blog social? No Mastodon and other decentralized networks are the real alternative to Twitter,Facebook, Reddit and co.

> And how do you make your static blog social?

You can't really. That's the price you pay for running your own stuff.

You can fake it a bit with widgets or injected comments, but ultimately that's a pretty pale imitation of the social experience.

The upside, though, is that you get to keep all of your content forever, and you get to display it the way you want.

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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Post by dasil003 »

jdc wrote: post #47
kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #44

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> Why does Facebook think it has the right to remove years of their users' contributions? How much were they paying for the service?

Exactly as much as Facebook would allow them to.

That's a clever re-framing, let me try: how many users would Facebook have if they charged $0.01 to sign up?

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Post by JBiserkov »

jdc wrote: post #47
kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #44

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> Why does Facebook think it has the right to remove years of their users' contributions? How much were they paying for the service?

Exactly as much as Facebook would allow them to.

And exactly as much as Facebook asked them to.

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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Post by int_19h »

joe_the_user wrote: post #60
shawn wrote: post #35

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It's the other way around. Why does Facebook think it has the right to remove years of their users' contributions? As the years march on, I think we'll see more and more data protection laws in favor of users rather than companies. Data is the new uranium, not the new oil. It needs to be protected and taken seriously. You can argue that it's Facebook's site and that they can do whatever they want. I argue that they c…

Why does Facebook think it has the right to remove years of their users' contributions? Huh? We're talking about Facebook refusing to keep reposting stuff from another site. That seems like exactly the opposite of the stuff Facebook might have some responsibility for, if it did have responsibility for stuff. I mean, obviously, it's ambiguous whether Facebook is a repository, a gate-keeper, a community, a blogging-sit…

> We're talking about Facebook refusing to keep reposting stuff from another site.

We're talking about how Facebook not only turned off the API that enabled reposting, but removed all past posts that were made via that API. Which, at that point, was exactly the kind of user data that they had responsibility for.

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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Post by r721 »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #44
shawn wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the other way around. Why does Facebook think it has the right to remove years of their users' contributions? As the years march on, I think we'll see more and more data protection laws in favor of users rather than companies. Data is the new uranium, not the new oil. It needs to be protected and taken seriously. You can argue that it's Facebook's site and that they can do whatever they want. I argue that they c…

> Why does Facebook think it has the right to remove years of their users' contributions? How much were they paying for the service?

They paid with their attention.

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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Post by Spivak »

bobbyadamson wrote: post #57
magic_beans wrote: post #38

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Who "relies" on cross-posted tweets?

Apparently a bunch of people considering how mad everyone seems to be about this.

I mean we're in a forum of people who would absolutely use one social network and automate mirroring to others. Doubt very few normal people even knew the feature existed. This change pretty much affects spammers, social media managers, and powerusers -- exactly the kind of people you probably don't want to interact with anyway on social media.

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Post by joe_the_user »

int_19h wrote: post #67
joe_the_user wrote: post #60

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Why does Facebook think it has the right to remove years of their users' contributions? Huh? We're talking about Facebook refusing to keep reposting stuff from another site. That seems like exactly the opposite of the stuff Facebook might have some responsibility for, if it did have responsibility for stuff. I mean, obviously, it's ambiguous whether Facebook is a repository, a gate-keeper, a community, a blogging-sit…

> We're talking about Facebook refusing to keep reposting stuff from another site. We're talking about how Facebook not only turned off the API that enabled reposting, but removed all past posts that were made via that API. Which, at that point, was exactly the kind of user data that they had responsibility for.

I'd assume posts made with the API would exist still on Twitter.
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