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Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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Make your own website and you won’t have to worry about this. I’m mostly joking. Who makes their own websites anymore? Frustrating seeing users caught in the crossfire of policy updates for tech giants.

Shameless-plug https://neocities.org lets you do that for free. :) + letting you kind of be a part of a community built around helping other people with their websites.

Also github and gitlab let you host websites for free. Gitlab even let's you run arbitrary code to build the static content.

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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Hanlon's razor, anybody? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor . This could just be a mistake.

Doubtful such a big change made it through Facebook's tight release process by mistake.

How familiar are you with Facebook's release process?

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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post #24

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Or just go back to email, which is what I've done. Proton Mail is an excellent alternative to Gmail, and pretty much everyone, even Richard Stallman, has an email address. Reaching out to individuals or sending out a general update every once in a while will suffice. Unless one's friends are really immature, people will hesitate to send you photos of their food or their thoughts on some trite opinion piece.

What's wrong with GMail? Google stopped mining it last year: https://blog.google/products/gmail/g-suite-gains-traction-in...

It's not so much that I don't like Gmail, but I don't like Google in general. All other reasons aside, it's not a very good idea to ever put trust in an ad agency. I'd much rather support smaller companies that make money off their service or product, as opposed to Google which tries to compete in a lot of spaces in order to suck people in to its ecosystem.

Over time, I've been replacing various Google services with smaller alternatives. At this point, it's down to Youtube, which is pretty hard to beat. But it feels a lot better to provide usership to smaller businesses that could use it more.

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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All the other reasons you shouldn’t use a “free” email service. You can be locked out of your account for arbitrary-reason-of-the-day and good luck finding a contact number or email address for support. If email is important to you, you probably shouldn’t be using a “free” service.

You can be locked out of a paid service just as easily, with just as little support, and with no recourse.

If my vps host blows up then I will start up a vps on another host, run the install script, import my backups and move the domain name. About 15 minutes work to resolved an issue that will probably never happen.

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

#145
post #54

The problem here is the dichotomy of "ownership" in social media platforms. Facebook (and others) know that giving you that feeling of ownership and customization keeps you coming back. The Twitter Avatar, the Facebook profile, the MySpace page. All those posts on your profile add to your collection, your customization. They let you control that little bit so that you feel like you own it in some way. Did you love th…

Thee need to own your own data is clear - only you should have the right to redact your posts for any reason. We should adopt systems that are fundamentally amoral, non-censoring, and non-competitive for our data being on their platform. Systems where we can profit from the success of our content. Can anyone think of some examples?

Also you should have the legal right to clear your data. I deleted my LinkedIn profile a year ago, I unsubscribed from everything and still receive spam from them. I literally want every bit of data they outright stole deleted.

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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Thee need to own your own data is clear - only you should have the right to redact your posts for any reason. We should adopt systems that are fundamentally amoral, non-censoring, and non-competitive for our data being on their platform. Systems where we can profit from the success of our content. Can anyone think of some examples?

Also you should have the legal right to clear your data. I deleted my LinkedIn profile a year ago, I unsubscribed from everything and still receive spam from them. I literally want every bit of data they outright stole deleted.

Oh, but then again, do you own the domain name for the email you receive? Do you control the mail server that operates your mail account?

If so, you could use the mailer daemon to tell LinkedIn that the email address does not exist, with a bounced mail response.

You could do that, if the email address was really "yours" and not Google's (or whoever).

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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post #74

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At the very least they're completely breaking the social contract they have with their users. Users post their data, they get the service, in return for Facebook making money off of that data. If Facebook decides to stop providing a service that keeps people on Facebook, Facebook will stop getting the data. Users paid for the service with their data, which Facebook can turn into money. The idea that users don't "pay"…

I feel like you're conflating what I said with a sibling comment. Paying has nothing to do with my point, and I don't see what social contract that Facebook is obligated to host anything and everything they once allowed forever.

They built the feature that people's post histories stay forever. They promoted it, with things like memory posts. People used it with the expectation that it would stay.

They took the posts down, with zero warning, zero hey we're deprecating this, back up your things. If your stuff was taken down and you care about it, one would hope that you would trust facebook less.

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

#149
post #107

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You can be locked out of a paid service just as easily, with just as little support, and with no recourse.

Get a domain and host it somewhere.

Why is this "Just move off the grid and live off the land" response so popular on HN?

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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post #10
post #3

This is pretty crazy. For people whose job is social media, this is basically the equivalent of Github just arbitrarily deciding they're going to delete all of your startup's source code without telling anyone in advance, or like Google Docs just deciding to disappear all your spreadsheets. With only a couple months until election season, Facebook is now literally editing politician's pages and deleting the campaign…

No, it’s the equivalent of GitHub deciding to remove all the code that you automatically re-post from SourceForge. In what way, AT ALL, was this this feature good for FACEBOOK? It meant people could be “on” Facebook and “active” without ever actually logging in or using the app or engaging in any way. Why would they want to just be a dumping ground for copies of another social network’s posts? I guess I’m surprised t…

Can you please stop using allcaps for emphasis on HN? It's basically yelling, and the site guidelines ask you not to.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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