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Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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Post by tokyodude »

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #61
bduerst wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's wrong with GMail? Google stopped mining it last year: https://blog.google/products/gmail/g-suite-gains-traction-in...

All the other reasons you shouldn’t use a “free” email service. You can be locked out of your account for arbitrary-reason-of-the-day and good luck finding a contact number or email address for support. If email is important to you, you probably shouldn’t be using a “free” service.

You can be locked out of a paid service just as easily, with just as little support, and with no recourse.

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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Post by com2kid »

nradov wrote: post #87
Alex3917 wrote: post #3

This is pretty crazy. For people whose job is social media, this is basically the equivalent of Github just arbitrarily deciding they're going to delete all of your startup's source code without telling anyone in advance, or like Google Docs just deciding to disappear all your spreadsheets. With only a couple months until election season, Facebook is now literally editing politician's pages and deleting the campaign…

I find it impossible to sympathize with anyone who considers social media a "job".

Lots of companies use social media as an outreach channel to their readers and users. From Tmobile's offering of tech support over Twitter, to live tweets of news events by journalists in the field.

I can guarantee you, every large corporation has a social media team, possibly a sizeable one, and the people working there are kept very busy.

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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Post by nsgoetz »

artursapek wrote: post #95
tylerhou wrote: post #58

Hanlon's razor, anybody? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor . This could just be a mistake.

Doubtful such a big change made it through Facebook's tight release process by mistake.

It easily could be a bug such as the refence to the Api being removed. Posts that reference it could raise an error leading to them being hidden. I’ll wait to hear if Facebook makes a statement.

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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Post by monetus »

mabbo wrote: post #54

The problem here is the dichotomy of "ownership" in social media platforms. Facebook (and others) know that giving you that feeling of ownership and customization keeps you coming back. The Twitter Avatar, the Facebook profile, the MySpace page. All those posts on your profile add to your collection, your customization. They let you control that little bit so that you feel like you own it in some way. Did you love th…

What do you think about the idea of classifying social media as a utility? I've heard a lot of people mention that lately...

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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Post by wolco »

baddox wrote: post #59
vageli wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What's wrong with GMail? > Google stopped mining it last year: https://blog.google/products/gmail/g-suite-gains-traction-in... . Google stopped mining it for ads, but it's disingenuous to say they stopped mining, period [0]. How do you think those Gmail suggested replies are generated? [0]: https://variety.com/2017/digital/news/google-gmail-ads-email...

So now they only mine it for things that are good for the user experience?

I'm sure that is the orginal intent but can quickly morph.

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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Post by GilbertErik »

jayofdoom wrote: post #50
chasing wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I liked the cross-posting because some people would comment on those Tweets on Facebook -- and then we could engage there. It did add value and wasn't just shoveled content. Anyway, I'm not particularly upset. Seems more like Facebook shooting themselves in the foot, as now I really have no reason to visit the site.

And all those comments are gone now. That's the real "oof" of this for me, as someone who did most of my facebook posting via twitter :(.

Same here. I would regularly post to twitter and wait for it to appear on Facebook and track the conversation there. The majority of old high school friends and distant relatives _only_ keep up with me through Facebook.

When a post from two weeks ago didn't show up, I should've listened to my gut instinct to grab a recent dump of my FB data.

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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Post by wolco »

tokyodude wrote: post #101
TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All the other reasons you shouldn’t use a “free” email service. You can be locked out of your account for arbitrary-reason-of-the-day and good luck finding a contact number or email address for support. If email is important to you, you probably shouldn’t be using a “free” service.

You can be locked out of a paid service just as easily, with just as little support, and with no recourse.

Get a domain and host it somewhere.

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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Post by um_ya »

monetus wrote: post #104
mabbo wrote: post #54

The problem here is the dichotomy of "ownership" in social media platforms. Facebook (and others) know that giving you that feeling of ownership and customization keeps you coming back. The Twitter Avatar, the Facebook profile, the MySpace page. All those posts on your profile add to your collection, your customization. They let you control that little bit so that you feel like you own it in some way. Did you love th…

What do you think about the idea of classifying social media as a utility? I've heard a lot of people mention that lately...

Then people will have to come to terms that banning Alex Jones was a bad idea too. You can't support a companies right to ban people you don't like while simultaneously advocating protections as a utility.

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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Post by wilsonnb3 »

shawn wrote: post #35
MBCook wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it’s the equivalent of GitHub deciding to remove all the code that you automatically re-post from SourceForge. In what way, AT ALL, was this this feature good for FACEBOOK? It meant people could be “on” Facebook and “active” without ever actually logging in or using the app or engaging in any way. Why would they want to just be a dumping ground for copies of another social network’s posts? I guess I’m surprised t…

It's the other way around. Why does Facebook think it has the right to remove years of their users' contributions? As the years march on, I think we'll see more and more data protection laws in favor of users rather than companies. Data is the new uranium, not the new oil. It needs to be protected and taken seriously. You can argue that it's Facebook's site and that they can do whatever they want. I argue that they c…

> Why does Facebook think it has the right to remove years of their users' contributions

Why would they not have the right to control content posted on their platform?

If someone lets me and all my friends communicate by posting signs on their front lawn for free, should they have an obligation to keep my signs on their lawn until I decide to remove it?

Saying it causes emotional harm is a pretty weak defense. Basically any action can cause emotional harm to someone.

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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Post by wolco »

amanaplanacanal wrote: post #71
tristanho wrote: post #52

Pretty annoying. This is following them completely banning any "posting" on behalf of users via API. (e.g the feature to cross-post tweets) While this change was definitely made in the interest of preventing spam, it also made Facebook worse as a product. We've had plenty of requests from our users who want a "share an image of my book passage to FB" feature. Not possible at all with their new stricter APIs.

It's only worse as a product if it hurts advertisers. The user isn't the customer.

The user is the product. It removes another content source for the user causing some products to leave the platform because it becomes less useful.

Facebook was the most useful pre 2012. You could create widgets that changed the look of part of your profile. Facebook games were interactive and not siloed like they are now. People posted status updates and they appeared in the news feeds of others.

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