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Snap’s Drop in Active Users Could Signal a Social Media Peak

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Re: Snap’s Drop in Active Users Could Signal a Social Media Peak

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Post by john_moscow »

shawn wrote: post #46
Qwertie wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you explain exactly how blockchains allow societies to create ideas? I'm not sure how append only lists allow idea sharing in ways a database does not.

Alex isn't wrong. But I don't think it's blockchain. It's decentralization in general. For example, I want to release a tool that can mod old ROMs. I cannot legally sell this. This is a new idea, I'd like to make a living with it, but I can't. And why not? Because the concept of IP has turned us into servants. Meanwhile you have youtube series like Freeman's Mind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SQhfkpX9bc making a k…

That will work... until a talented guy from a poorer country starts selling a cracked version of your ROM for half the price. Good luck competing with that in a 0% regulated environment.

Re: Snap’s Drop in Active Users Could Signal a Social Media Peak

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Post by leon_sbt »

ravenstine wrote: post #82
leon_sbt wrote: post #69

I really wish social media would "peak" to towards meeting people in real life semi-spontaneously. No profiles, no media uploads, no digital showboating. The best relationships I have with other people fall in this category. Real life,common interests,no digital uploads. Just add attributes of your geolocation and hobbies [biking, yoga,tensorflow,etc] or let it crawl your digital profile(s) to autobuild your attribut…

We seem to be on the same wavelength. I might be giving up a viable idea here, but for a while I've been thinking about a sort of hybrid between Meetup and online multiplayer matchmaking where groups of people can meet up and do stuff without the need for an actual organizer. Here's how I envision it: - A user joins and provides a materials used to perform a background check. - People with accounts sign in and are au…

I think we are on the same page.

Don't worry about QR codes, it kills the vibe of an "organic" meeting. Just do it via GPS.

I wouldn't worry about liability, look at the physical contact Tinder is promoting :)

I think the rating should be on the group overall, and not on an individual level.

Negative individual ratings should only be done with consensus, if everyone says Bob was a bully. Then Bob's a bully. But if only Debbie says Bob was a bully, then maybe Debbie just overreacts.

If Debbie constantly negatively rates against the consensus, then Debbie probably isn't a good fit for group situations.

Re: Snap’s Drop in Active Users Could Signal a Social Media Peak

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Post by natrik »

spacehome wrote: post #61
Qwertie wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IM is honestly the number 1 social media right now. Its real communication with people you actually care about and not a popularity contest or marketing and no algorithm trying to tell you what you should be looking at.

I think email is #1. Personally, it's my favorite because I get to pick and choose who sees each post.

Why can't you pick and choose with IM?

Re: Snap’s Drop in Active Users Could Signal a Social Media Peak

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Post by dosy »

Alex3917 wrote: post #83
dosy wrote: post #47

Does HN qualify as "social media"? We are not anywhere near "Peak Social Media". Otherwise investor valuations would not be what they are. Even discounting they can predict the future, Zuck hasn't even got started on his VR/AR "ready player 1" social network dream yet, decentralized social media hasn't had its try for the title yet, and the non-social big 5 are still waiting for FB weakness for their chance to strike…

> Does HN qualify as "social media"? Here is a good discussion about how academics who research the Internet define social media: https://www.fwdeveryone.com/t/ZZCAfWipRjCjvC9ZzbLf1w/air-def...

That FWD.Everyone site is pretty cool.

Re: Snap’s Drop in Active Users Could Signal a Social Media Peak

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Post by marmshallow »

spacehome wrote: post #61
Qwertie wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IM is honestly the number 1 social media right now. Its real communication with people you actually care about and not a popularity contest or marketing and no algorithm trying to tell you what you should be looking at.

I think email is #1. Personally, it's my favorite because I get to pick and choose who sees each post.

Same with messaging, right? I have a personal vendetta against email.

Re: Snap’s Drop in Active Users Could Signal a Social Media Peak

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Post by Qworg »

lev99 wrote: post #85
endgame wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's also a way of doing leaderless agreement about distributed platforms in low-trust environments. I'm no blockchain fanatic, bit ISTM that a decentralised discussion board could require the spending of tokens to make posts. The market should hopefully make the tokens of desirable communities more expensive, which discourages cheap, low-effort posts. AFAICT, before blockchain you could have decentralisation or paid…

I cannot envision myself joining a community like the one you described unless the utility of the community was very high. I do not think that paid posting will improve the average utility of a community, but I am open to examples showing I am incorrect. The best publications pay people to write for them, not the other way around.

If the average utility is calculated as ideas by they who have the most money, then you're golden.

I agree completely - why would paid posting do anything but create a chilling effect on anyone but the wealthy?

Re: Snap’s Drop in Active Users Could Signal a Social Media Peak

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Post by whytaka »

scarejunba wrote: post #51
whalesalad wrote: post #49

Users are jumping ship to Instagram. Once they duplicated the functionality it was the nail in the coffin for snap. If I had a ton of cash lying around I’d short the stock to zero. Insta was Facebooks greatest acquisition.

Three thousand dollars will get you options until 2020 that you can cash in for $50k worth. You don't need a ton of cash if you think they're going to zero.

How exactly do I do this?

Re: Snap’s Drop in Active Users Could Signal a Social Media Peak

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Post by shawn »

john_moscow wrote: post #91
shawn wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Alex isn't wrong. But I don't think it's blockchain. It's decentralization in general. For example, I want to release a tool that can mod old ROMs. I cannot legally sell this. This is a new idea, I'd like to make a living with it, but I can't. And why not? Because the concept of IP has turned us into servants. Meanwhile you have youtube series like Freeman's Mind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SQhfkpX9bc making a k…

That will work... until a talented guy from a poorer country starts selling a cracked version of your ROM for half the price. Good luck competing with that in a 0% regulated environment.

At least it'd be a fair matchup. Me vs big companies is like an ant vs you. I'm less worried about a talented Russian who's stuck one generation behind my latest work anyway.

Re: Snap’s Drop in Active Users Could Signal a Social Media Peak

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Post by grimbly »

drb91 wrote: post #20
Alex3917 wrote: post #7

We might be at a local maximum, but we're nowhere near the peak. What we're seeing is an end of the race to the bottom. What's happened is that most of the major social networks only hire and promote people who make decisions primarily based on analytics. As a result these sites no longer have any real communities or organic content, and have been completely hollowed out by math-friendly refrigerator magnet junkfood.…

> with new technologies are going to come novel and compelling forms of social interaction. What, Web 3.0 will come with booze? While I am entertained by social media, I can't remember the last time I actually interacted with anyone in a substantive way. I'd much rather hit the bar and admit to myself that social media isn't very social.

Since when was the bar ever a "substantive" way to interact with people?

Re: Snap’s Drop in Active Users Could Signal a Social Media Peak

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Post by soziawa »

askafriend wrote: post #56
krisroadruck wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Genuine question... how is whatsapp a social website vs just a chat application? Perhaps I've missed something critical about it but the way I've used it and seen anyone else use it is just as a replacement for SMS

Any proprietary communications platform meant primarily for communicating between humans can be referred to as a social network. It's a pretty broad definition in my mind.

So letters are a social network?
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