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> "and are providing a migration path to Slack for all our customers." Well, not all of your customers. Unless Slack is introducing a self-hosted version? They've already nuked the page on the self-hosted hipchat offering, which now redirects to https://www.atlassian.com/partnerships/slack Which is a complete bummer. Slack isn't an option for us.
It is possible to get a confidentiality agreement with Slack over and above the normal terms if you negotiate with them.
Am I the only one who sees this as anti-competitive? This is basically collusion - Atlassian agreeing not to compete in chat in return for a payment from Slack. It almost seems like we're intent on making literally every mistake we made with traditional businesses, but with electronic products.
I mean this without being tongue in cheek, but Teams itself is anti-competitive. It's a horrible product which is basically only in use because it's bundled into Office 365. Absolutely nothing in Teams is not done better in other products, including Microsoft's own products such as Skype for Business or plain old Skype. Business chats in general are just completely incongruent with what users are expecting from end-u…
Similarly, I personally find the bundling->anticompetitive argument very unconvincing, especially given G-suite and other players in the cloud office space, especially in this context as atlassian's business model "rhymes" pretty heavily.
(As always disclaimer all opinions are my own, etc etc)
I hope this means Slack will invest in improving their core desktop offering; it is a notorious resource hog
Well, thanks to this today I learned that Microsoft had a product called Teams. I didn't see anybody using it but I saw plenty of people using Slack. Maybe is Team addressed to big companies? My customers are all medium or small. Does anyone here have some experience using Teams? Is it really in competition with Slack?
Interesting. I worked at a healthcare tech startup last year and the reason why we had to use Hipchat is because the self-hosted Hipchat Server was HIPAA-compliant and Slack does not have a HIPAA-compliant self-hosted option. Have no idea what they're going to do (or anyone who needs to comply with stricter regulatory guidelines that prevents use of cloud-based messaging apps).
They seem to be HIPAA compliant now. (No self-hosting yet) https://slack.com/security
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...which are being immediately shut down.
Their official post says they are working on a transition path: https://slackhq.com/atlassian-and-slack-partnership
They are immediately deprecated. It doesn't appear that Slack has any real interest in Hipchat/Stride tech (I know I don't).
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What is the problem you're trying to solve?
An opinionated workflow of collecting from a development team and its customers potential future efforts, estimates of the cost and value of those efforts, prioritizing based on those estimates (maximize expected value, minimize expected cost), scheduling & forecasting efforts based on a sound statistical model (e.g. estimation error).
JIRA promises armchair management, but I've yet to see those tools actually work. That being said, you may be a better JIRA user than anyone I know. JIRA has always be promoted as a tool from the top down, never from the bottom up.
What options are left for self-hosted chat systems with comparable features? We've been using self-hosted Hipchat at our company and there is zero chance we will ever use a cloud solution.
People I respect¹ seem to like Zulip ( https://zulipchat.com/ ), though I haven't used it myself. ¹: https://twitter.com/b0rk/status/986444234365521920
Huge problem for on-prem Hipchat customers. Plenty of customers out there not willing to put all their internal communications on the other side of their firewall, and now have to migrate. Slack doesn't have an on-prem option. Microsoft Teams doesn't have an on-prem option. What are enterprises supposed to use, RocketChat? Matrix? With no clear migration path? Really poor move on Atlassian's part. It would be one thi…
> Slack doesn't have an on-prem option. Microsoft Teams doesn't have an on-prem option. What are enterprises supposed to use, RocketChat? Matrix? With no clear migration path? Mattermost[1], with a clear migration path from Slack, at least. [1] https://mattermost.com/