Woah, this is huge. Atlassian is really going for the "everything a tech shop needs" gold.
If thats what was happening, Slack would be migrating over to Hipchat.
Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian
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Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian
#32And whoosh there goes another option for non-cloud-based enterprise chat.
Weren't both Slack's and Atlassian's offerings cloud-based?
No. Hipchat had an on-prem option. In fact, I'm kind of stunned to see that the blog post on Slack's website doesn't mention the on-prem version at all. Given that on-prem was one of the differentiators that Hipchat had against Slack (and one of the reasons that many companies stuck with Hipchat, even though Slack had more features), the lack of discussion around the on-prem version seems like a huge mistake.
Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian
#33Even those less competition normally isn't good I'm hopefully optimistic about this. It seems by and large slack has won the chat wars for open projects/podcast live chat/business. My company uses HipChat (due to being in the Atlassian suite) and so I'm not going to have both Slack and HipChat open but if we move to Slack it means I can participant in some other open Slack channels.
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#34As someone who uses both Slack and HipChat on a daily basis, I am very happy to see that HipChat is the one shutting down. The "cute" features that Slack adds aren't worth much individually, but the overall user experience is much better on Slack than HipChat.
Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian
#35It's a smart move from Atlassian, Slack is a superior product with an huge mind-share.
Most of the time companies stick with their own products as if they were a sacred cow no matter the costs.
Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian
#36Am I the only one who sees this as anti-competitive? This is basically collusion - Atlassian agreeing not to compete in chat in return for a payment from Slack. It almost seems like we're intent on making literally every mistake we made with traditional businesses, but with electronic products.
It looks more like a product acquisition than collusion. > Slack will pay an undisclosed amount over the next three years to acquire Atlassian’s HipChat and Stride products
...which are being immediately shut down.
Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian
#37>> We are purchasing the IP for Hipchat Cloud and Stride It would be nice if Slack took a leaf out of the Hipchat play book and made a native (non-electron) Mac app.
What's wrong with the electron app?
It reduces the available resources for my dev vms (read: actual work) by a disproportionate amount
Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian
#38Am I the only one who sees this as anti-competitive? This is basically collusion - Atlassian agreeing not to compete in chat in return for a payment from Slack. It almost seems like we're intent on making literally every mistake we made with traditional businesses, but with electronic products.
If by "anti-competitive" you mean all of a sudden there's less competition, then yes it is although that's nothing unique, competing companies merge or make strategic deals all the time. But if you mean "anti-competitive" as in violating anti-trust laws then probably not given the amount of choice that still exists and the apparent lack of monopolistic strong-arm tactics being employed by either side. I'm no lawyer of course.
Edit: Original made it sound like I was suggesting the companies were merging, which isn't the case.
Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian
#39Am I the only one who sees this as anti-competitive? This is basically collusion - Atlassian agreeing not to compete in chat in return for a payment from Slack. It almost seems like we're intent on making literally every mistake we made with traditional businesses, but with electronic products.
It looks more like a product acquisition than collusion. > Slack will pay an undisclosed amount over the next three years to acquire Atlassian’s HipChat and Stride products
Okay, so given that Atlassian has a clear and direct reason to develop a competitive chat application, presumably they'll embark on producing a new solution and marketing it to their customers as a competitor to slack? I'm not sure I buy it.
Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian
#40What options are left for self-hosted chat systems with comparable features? We've been using self-hosted Hipchat at our company and there is zero chance we will ever use a cloud solution.
A Matrix.org server?