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GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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post #37

what is more scary to me is 2 different versions of the same website for 2 different locations!

And then we have many websites that show news display a different version with different content to every user.

That's why I love Hacker News -everyone sees the same thing

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

#112
post #92

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The NPR version though ... https://twitter.com/alexhern/status/1000000898289033216

Rather than linking to another insidious "social media platform," would it be possible to simply describe what is there? Many of us have sworn off Twitter, FB, Google, youtube, etc. because we don't care for the tracking, nor do we care for regulations. Unfortunately, we miss out on many things when people insist we participate on those sites by merely linking to them as part of a discussion.

Not simple at all, as in both instances we are looking at multiple images that compare different version with various measurements attached.

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

#113
post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The NPR version though ... https://twitter.com/alexhern/status/1000000898289033216

Rather than linking to another insidious "social media platform," would it be possible to simply describe what is there? Many of us have sworn off Twitter, FB, Google, youtube, etc. because we don't care for the tracking, nor do we care for regulations. Unfortunately, we miss out on many things when people insist we participate on those sites by merely linking to them as part of a discussion.

I get this argument when you're taking about a non-public Facebook post, but you don't need a Twitter account to view content posted on Twitter.

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

#114
post #86

Websites can be "documents" or they can be "apps". It's great that we now have the option to build the latter, but far too many things that should be simple documents (news sites, I'm looking at you) are trying to be apps, and it's virtually always a worse user experience, setting aside the cost in load time, memory, and battery usage. I'm saying this as a JavaScript developer.

The market has spoken. No seriously, if it sucks so much, why haven't users responded by going somewhere else, thus incentivizing sites to behave well?

Or: the market does not (always) work. This too is an option.

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

#115
post #86

Websites can be "documents" or they can be "apps". It's great that we now have the option to build the latter, but far too many things that should be simple documents (news sites, I'm looking at you) are trying to be apps, and it's virtually always a worse user experience, setting aside the cost in load time, memory, and battery usage. I'm saying this as a JavaScript developer.

The market has spoken. No seriously, if it sucks so much, why haven't users responded by going somewhere else, thus incentivizing sites to behave well?

People who say this, do you realize that if the market were left to its own devices cars would still be deathtraps without seatbelts?

The market isn’t magic, and the market we actually have is far from free.

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

#116
post #81

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The new Reddit React site hijacks right-click so you can't even open your responses/user page in a separate tab. Fail. This is how Slashdot.org lost their user base. Who in their right mind would use React for a content-based site? But reddit seems to know they suck at websites: you can still access " rel="nofollow">https://old.reddit.com/r/ and even /.compact" rel="nofollow">https://old.reddit.com/r/ /.compact for t…

> Who in their right mind would use React for a content-based site? People who are also writing content-based apps and want to write once but still obtain native speeds on mobile? The lack of right-click functionality is just bad design, not React's fault.

Are you talking about Reactive Native? Sounds good on paper, but it's just as fast or slow as a browser because it is a browser, and is far from creating a native app experience on either iOS or Android because it tries to do animation on a JavaScript-style single-threaded execution model among other things. What content-based apps do you have in mind? The Reddit app nobody is using because it doesn't add value to the web site, and which Reddit keeps nagging about in the most annoying way possible (thereby signaling users to never ever install it)?

React is fine for browser-based line-of-business (and I guess also collaboration) apps; for content, not so much because you have to go through hoops to parse content into React's vdom [1].

[1]: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50420248/how-to-parse-a-...

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

#118

How do you think free sites pay for producing all that valuable content? I find it astonishing that most people seem to think having access to news for free is almost a right. If you had taken their paid subscriptions they'd have served you a less add riddled version.

You can run ads without 5mb of tracking scripts. The options are not “invade evryone’s privacy to maximize profit” or “become a charity” after all. Most of the history of advertising functioned without probing the virtual rectum of your customers.

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

#119
post #95

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> Th EU should make a law requiring HTML versions of pages with no JS. Having politicians and lawyers micromanage technology decisions for the entire Internet? What could possibly go wrong.

Couldn’t get any worse? The Internet is basically unusable today.

Sounds like an exaggeration since I'm using it to post on HN right now.

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

#120
So we've recently heard in the news that cryptocurrency mining supposedly takes .5% of all global power.

Now compare that to the extra electricity required for everybody undergoing the horrible experience of 80 poorly written trackers and ads constantly overloading each tab in a web browser.

This reminds me of the American budget. Cut the funding for Planned Parenthood and the Arts but we need a hundred new tanks!

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