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GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by ashleyn »

salawat wrote: post #82
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #2

I'm honestly starting to reach the opinion we should all be VPNing our web traffic through Europe so we can pick up more of the benefits.

Orrrrr.... We could actually send a real message that this type of behavior is completely unacceptable by raising awareness in our collective countries of origin to get GDPR like regulations codified in law so this type of abuse becomes the exception rather than the norm. Otherwise, it'll turn into a case where companies will farm out their web design and digital marketing to "marketing heavens" just like they alread…

>implying Congress will do anything other than continue to line the pockets of rich cronies

The federal government in the US is profoundly dysfunctional to the point where this isn't worth the time or money. However, it may be worth the effort on the state level.

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by sbov »

lccarrasco wrote: post #44
_blz2 wrote: post #37

what is more scary to me is 2 different versions of the same website for 2 different locations!

Happens all the time (besides the obvious i18n) , especially with stuff that has different regulations per country, like gambling.

Yep. They also block countries until they can be sure they can abide by their regulations.

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by TeMPOraL »

dominotw wrote: post #77
wlll wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel freer now companies are limited with what they can do with my data. I hope that preventing companies exploiting data will lead to more interesting business models than "provide distracting trinket and harvest data". I don't want to take part in a grand age of the Internet which basically amounts to people harvesting information about me so they can do anything from trying to sell me shit to attempting to corru…

Aren't you basically adimitting that you are 1. distracted by 'trinkets' 2. Expose your personal information in exchange for trinkets 3. Prone to buying 'shit' on the internet 4. naive to fall for fake news 5. Govt needs to step in and take charge to create "more interesting business models"

It's true for everyone to a greater or lesser extent. That's why ads and data abuse are the dominant business model on the Internet.

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by TulliusCicero »

salawat wrote: post #69
olivierduval wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

who NEED ???? Are you kidding ??? Even without TARGETED ads, the world is still running, you know?? And if a startup business model is to make money by selling its user datas without telling them and without their consent.. well... let it die!!! And the world will be a better place...

People need to not downvote. The in-joke is the bane of communication. Let it be explicitly spelled out for those not in the know.

It's not an inside joke, just sarcasm.

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by TulliusCicero »

_bxg1 wrote: post #86

Websites can be "documents" or they can be "apps". It's great that we now have the option to build the latter, but far too many things that should be simple documents (news sites, I'm looking at you) are trying to be apps, and it's virtually always a worse user experience, setting aside the cost in load time, memory, and battery usage. I'm saying this as a JavaScript developer.

The market has spoken.

No seriously, if it sucks so much, why haven't users responded by going somewhere else, thus incentivizing sites to behave well?

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by amnah »

amnah wrote: post #65
microtonal wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I good compromise is uMatrix, which by default only allows first-party JavaScript and cookies and makes it easy to quickly enable JavaScript/XDR/cookies when necessary using a point and click matrix: https://github.com/gorhill/uMatrix

Is uMatrix something you use instead of uBlock, or in addition to? Also is there a guide on how to use it somewhere

To answer my own question, it's a bit redundant but I need both.

uMatrix handles network stuff (blocking css, js, media, etc).

uBlock also handles network stuff, but the difference is that uBlock can also block specific elements on the page, eg, divs by id or class.

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by digi_owl »

dominotw wrote: post #38
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #2

I'm honestly starting to reach the opinion we should all be VPNing our web traffic through Europe so we can pick up more of the benefits.

Is anyone concerned that we are starting to replicate real world boundaries on the internet. Internet was supposed to free us from the limitations of the real world. World of internet was supposed to be the one where you can fluidly switch between your preceptions of self, become a new person whenever you felt like, leave your past behind. This was supposed to be a new world where people see themselves differently. N…

Its been that way since day one.

The FBI can clobber your .com domain if you infringe US law, even if both you and your server are located in places it would be perfectly legal.

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by SmellyGeekBoy »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #94
p49k wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Who in their right mind would use React for a content-based site? People who are also writing content-based apps and want to write once but still obtain native speeds on mobile? The lack of right-click functionality is just bad design, not React's fault.

> obtain native speeds on mobile With browsers and heavy JavaScript frameworks? That's an oxymoron right there. The truth is, people/organizations doing this simply put other concerns above user experience and friendliness.

"Native speeds" in this case meaning "needlessly slow". But at least it's consistently slow across devices!

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by digi_owl »

TulliusCicero wrote: post #105
_bxg1 wrote: post #86

Websites can be "documents" or they can be "apps". It's great that we now have the option to build the latter, but far too many things that should be simple documents (news sites, I'm looking at you) are trying to be apps, and it's virtually always a worse user experience, setting aside the cost in load time, memory, and battery usage. I'm saying this as a JavaScript developer.

The market has spoken. No seriously, if it sucks so much, why haven't users responded by going somewhere else, thus incentivizing sites to behave well?

> The market has spoken.

That is one tread bare cop out.

When the choice is to go without completely, few will do so (and those that do will often get marketing blitzed as "luddites").

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by icebraining »

18pfsmt wrote: post #92
denzil_correa wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The NPR version though ... https://twitter.com/alexhern/status/1000000898289033216

Rather than linking to another insidious "social media platform," would it be possible to simply describe what is there? Many of us have sworn off Twitter, FB, Google, youtube, etc. because we don't care for the tracking, nor do we care for regulations. Unfortunately, we miss out on many things when people insist we participate on those sites by merely linking to them as part of a discussion.

They're redirecting to https://text.npr.org/ (which already existed)
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