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Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by wlll »

dominotw wrote: post #52
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We haven't "created countries on the Internet". The Internet exists in the real world, and it exists in countries. Those countries have laws, and they always applied. Governments can take time to adopt to new technologies, but this was always going to happen. And GDPR is an awesome thing, it's an example of governments doing the right thing.

> We haven't "created countries on the Internet". We have though. Your world on the internet looks different based on citizenship( ipAdress) and ppl have to get a visa (VPN) to go that country on the internet. People hated it when China did this but somehow EU doing this is somehow commendable. Now people are europeans, americans, indians ect on the internet. I just want to be a human being.

I feel like you need to explain how China's great firewall (I assume this is what you referenced) is the same as the GDPR?

One prevents people in China from accessing stuff the government doesn't like, the other prevents companies from treating your data like shit.

> Your world on the internet looks different based on citizenship

Yes, my world on the Internet looks a hell of a lot better than the Internet as seen from the US.

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by madez »

dominotw wrote: post #52
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We haven't "created countries on the Internet". The Internet exists in the real world, and it exists in countries. Those countries have laws, and they always applied. Governments can take time to adopt to new technologies, but this was always going to happen. And GDPR is an awesome thing, it's an example of governments doing the right thing.

> We haven't "created countries on the Internet". We have though. Your world on the internet looks different based on citizenship( ipAdress) and ppl have to get a visa (VPN) to go that country on the internet. People hated it when China did this but somehow EU doing this is somehow commendable. Now people are europeans, americans, indians ect on the internet. I just want to be a human being.

I didn't hate it when China did it just because they implemented national regulation. The deciding matter is what is regulated and how.

> Now people are europeans, americans, indians ect on the internet. I just want to be a human being.

Then let's put people in power that uphold international law and treaties, and empower international bodies.

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by highesttide »

rayiner wrote: post #55

This is great. (1) How do I pretend to be from the EU? (2) Th EU should make a law requiring HTML versions of pages with no JS. The evolution of the Internet in the last two decades has been such a tremendous disappointment. It really peaked in the early 2000s (when I got my first DSL connection but before JS became a thing).

Do you genuinely believe anyone should be regulating using modern technologies on the web like that, asides from stuff related to accessibility?

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by mort96 »

kisstheblade wrote: post #34

Tried to open the twitter link. Asked me to agree to their terms to continue to use th service. Answered no. No the link just says "Oops, something went wrong. Please try again later." (the link is https://twitter.com/i/flow/consent_violation_flow ) Gotta love the GDPR, a nice way to get rid of all the "social media" crap and hundreds of ad trackers that has infested every corner of the internet.

The decline button "works" for me, but just takes you to a page where you can delete your Twitter account.

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by amnah »

microtonal wrote: post #40
dman wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you liked the effect of installing an adblocker give disabling Javascript a try. (You can selectively whitelist a small number of websites). Did this a couple of years back and the difference is astounding.

I good compromise is uMatrix, which by default only allows first-party JavaScript and cookies and makes it easy to quickly enable JavaScript/XDR/cookies when necessary using a point and click matrix: https://github.com/gorhill/uMatrix

Is uMatrix something you use instead of uBlock, or in addition to? Also is there a guide on how to use it somewhere

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by oldcynic »

madez wrote: post #56
koolba wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly it's a shrinking list and as sites replace static content with things like React it's shrinking even faster. Good: HN works well and handles the downgrade gracefully (ex: upvoting becomes a POST rather than AJAX). Bad: The original Reddit site works ok but the new React based one one fails miserably as it shows a loading screen that never changes.

The new reddit interface is horrible without JavaScript. One can get back the good one under old.reddit.com

The new reddit interface is horrible period. Even with JavaScript on.

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by rayiner »

dominotw wrote: post #38
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #2

I'm honestly starting to reach the opinion we should all be VPNing our web traffic through Europe so we can pick up more of the benefits.

Is anyone concerned that we are starting to replicate real world boundaries on the internet. Internet was supposed to free us from the limitations of the real world. World of internet was supposed to be the one where you can fluidly switch between your preceptions of self, become a new person whenever you felt like, leave your past behind. This was supposed to be a new world where people see themselves differently. N…

> World of internet was supposed to be the one where you can fluidly switch between your preceptions of self, become a new person whenever you felt like, leave your past behind. This was supposed to be a new world where people see themselves differently.

Since when? The Internet was designed to be a robust way for Americans to communicate in the event of a nuclear attack.

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by tannhaeuser »

koolba wrote: post #47
dmead wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a list somewhere of what websites actually work without JavaScript enabled?

Sadly it's a shrinking list and as sites replace static content with things like React it's shrinking even faster. Good: HN works well and handles the downgrade gracefully (ex: upvoting becomes a POST rather than AJAX). Bad: The original Reddit site works ok but the new React based one one fails miserably as it shows a loading screen that never changes.

The new Reddit React site hijacks right-click so you can't even open your responses/user page in a separate tab. Fail. This is how Slashdot.org lost their user base. Who in their right mind would use React for a content-based site?

But reddit seems to know they suck at websites: you can still access " rel="nofollow">https://old.reddit.com/r/ and even /.compact" rel="nofollow">https://old.reddit.com/r//.compact for the old site and the old old site.

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by salawat »

olivierduval wrote: post #12
matwood wrote: post #3

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But how will all the startups who need to sell your data stay in business? /s

who NEED ???? Are you kidding ??? Even without TARGETED ads, the world is still running, you know?? And if a startup business model is to make money by selling its user datas without telling them and without their consent.. well... let it die!!! And the world will be a better place...

People need to not downvote. The in-joke is the bane of communication. Let it be explicitly spelled out for those not in the know.

Re: GDPR Version of USA Today Is 500KB Instead of 5.2MB

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Post by dominotw »

wlll wrote: post #61
dominotw wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We haven't "created countries on the Internet". We have though. Your world on the internet looks different based on citizenship( ipAdress) and ppl have to get a visa (VPN) to go that country on the internet. People hated it when China did this but somehow EU doing this is somehow commendable. Now people are europeans, americans, indians ect on the internet. I just want to be a human being.

I feel like you need to explain how China's great firewall (I assume this is what you referenced) is the same as the GDPR? One prevents people in China from accessing stuff the government doesn't like, the other prevents companies from treating your data like shit. > Your world on the internet looks different based on citizenship Yes, my world on the Internet looks a hell of a lot better than the Internet as seen fro…

> Yes, my world on the Internet looks a hell of a lot better than the Internet as seen from the US.

Internet in rest of world is fine. Atleast our govt doesn't record our porn watching activities via unknown third parties.

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