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Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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So, I'll join the chorus here by saying that I've picked up the subscription fee. I've been using their software daily for over three years. During that time, they have consistently improved their product and have been open about issues (as far as I am concerned). I was a little irked when I saw the subscription model. I was like, "hey, I paid for this." So, I looked up how much I paid in licenses by looking them up.…

As time goes on, I've gotten less and less comfortable using proprietary software for critical tasks. If 1Password were open source, I'd actually be pretty happy to subscribe. But as it stands, I have no faith that the product won't change out from under me in the future, whether due to a pivot, an acquisition, or some other reason. The incentives align in favor of the business, not the customer. IMHO, subscriptions…

At some point you have to value people. The 1Password folks have never let me down, and have been very honest, so I trust them. The product has done nothing but improve over the years for me, increasing in value and ease of use. And then with how often LastPass has had security breaches, it was a no brainer for me to leave LastPass years ago, and I don't regret it.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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> And once you start on that path you can't go back, or else the tool stops working. How would you feel about a subscription service that guaranteed updates? Essentially, upgrade pricing, but charged every month.

Will my compiler or IDE stop working if I don't pay the subscription fee? You can guess how I'd feel about that.

No: you’re paying for updates, not the privilege of getting to use the software.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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For me, something related: can I remove the data in a usable form? 1Password makes that easy, so like others here, I'm happy to pay them to perform the 'eternal vigilance' that secret-keeping entails.

Yes, you can export it as a CSV file. They even warn you that it’s not secure.

> They even warn you that it’s not secure.

I don't think anyone who uses a password manager is exporting to CSV for security purposes.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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I feel the same way and I'm starting to look towards alternatives. Despite having bought (or had bought for me, at various jobs) somewhere between 10 and 15 individual licenses, 1Password won't ever get another dime from me after the way they've treated non-subscription customers. In addition to making it confusing to use my license, the command-line doesn't work at all without a subscription and now other software t…

I've been very happy with bitwarden. It's free to use (and open source if you want to self host). They have a 10 USD/year subscription if you care to some premium features and/or supporting the company. As a free user I've contacted their support twice and they replied within minutes.

I thought Bitwarden was super cool until I realized that the self-hosted version still phones home to their servers. Not to say that you couldn't fix that, I mean, the source is all available.

But shamefully, as it stands, "self hosted" for Bitwarden really means "host on your server, with our server's permission"

Reference (see "Installation Id/Key"): https://help.bitwarden.com/article/install-on-premise/

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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So, I'll join the chorus here by saying that I've picked up the subscription fee. I've been using their software daily for over three years. During that time, they have consistently improved their product and have been open about issues (as far as I am concerned). I was a little irked when I saw the subscription model. I was like, "hey, I paid for this." So, I looked up how much I paid in licenses by looking them up.…

As time goes on, I've gotten less and less comfortable using proprietary software for critical tasks. If 1Password were open source, I'd actually be pretty happy to subscribe. But as it stands, I have no faith that the product won't change out from under me in the future, whether due to a pivot, an acquisition, or some other reason. The incentives align in favor of the business, not the customer. IMHO, subscriptions…

Bitwarden is the answer for your concerns. I've moved to it and never looked back.

https://bitwarden.com

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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post #350

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As time goes on, I've gotten less and less comfortable using proprietary software for critical tasks. If 1Password were open source, I'd actually be pretty happy to subscribe. But as it stands, I have no faith that the product won't change out from under me in the future, whether due to a pivot, an acquisition, or some other reason. The incentives align in favor of the business, not the customer. IMHO, subscriptions…

Especially security related software companies, they have a tendency of degenerating into user-hostile malware businesses.

Comodo, Tripwire, Symantec, McAfee... on and on.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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I've been using KeepassXC (KeePass w/ macOS GUI elements) and enjoying it. It's a little simple (you just copy and paste the PW). It doesn't do fancy autofill but there's support for pretty much every OS. (I use Spideroak to sync the DB across devices)

Yeah, I use the very old KeepassX 0.9.x because dev jumped the shark after that. I should have a look at XC. Ty.

My setup uses iCloud, Box and Google Drive to sync the kdb.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

#358

So, I'll join the chorus here by saying that I've picked up the subscription fee. I've been using their software daily for over three years. During that time, they have consistently improved their product and have been open about issues (as far as I am concerned). I was a little irked when I saw the subscription model. I was like, "hey, I paid for this." So, I looked up how much I paid in licenses by looking them up.…

As time goes on, I've gotten less and less comfortable using proprietary software for critical tasks. If 1Password were open source, I'd actually be pretty happy to subscribe. But as it stands, I have no faith that the product won't change out from under me in the future, whether due to a pivot, an acquisition, or some other reason. The incentives align in favor of the business, not the customer. IMHO, subscriptions…

KeePass works for me, and it's available on all the platforms I use.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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So if the app were open source and the maintainers decided to abandon it, are you going to download the code and keep it updated? If it is forked are you going to trust the new maintainers? Are you going to audit the source code?

If it was a matter of OS compatibility, I'd certainly be able to do it for iOS or macOS. Security, less so, but with luck there would be others to do that work, if the app had enough users. Surely it would be better than just implicitly trusting some company with a profit motive? I'm not expecting anyone to do the work for free, by the way. You could still charge money for cloud sync or even app extensions and still…

Bitwarden has been great for me. After going from LastPass to 1Pass to KeePassXC to Bitwarden, I really appreciate the simplicity of a simple browser extension without the requirement for a local client.

Bitwarden just works and checks the boxes for me. I haven't tried it yet, but there is also a fork [1] that allows us to use our own hosting.

[1] https://github.com/jakeswenson/BitBetter

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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There are open source 3d party applications on Linux that I've used to access 1Password password archives. The code is closed source but everything they're using to encrypt the passwords are open standards. You can build your own 3rd party open source platform to access them.

Do you have any suggestions for such software? I've been looking into this as I migrate to Linux and have yet to find something that does read and write for stuff stored in my Vault. I'd honestly be willing to pay for software that provided this.

The official solution is to subscribe to their subscription service (any tier works) and use 1Password X in-browser: https://support.1password.com/getting-started-1password-x/

Not sure about other solutions, open or closed; I moved over to their subscription service a few months ago and haven't looked back.

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