Did this actually happen to you? Out of curiosity, in what time period and industry? I only ask because I imagine that even the most racist HR person in the world would know to show more discretion.
Yes, in the early 90s (I'm old), and it was the local AT&T office. I've also been "discriminated" against for not being Native American (Casino Morongo in So Cal), and not being an Evangelical Christian (Cal Baptist University). As it turns out-- those institutions are legally allowed to discriminate. It absolutely blew my mind being asked to "describe my relationship with jesus" in an interview.
This begs the question, what is Latino and what is white? I was born in a Latin American country to a Latin American mother and a Canadian father, have lived here my entire life but if you saw me you wouldn't even think I spoke Spanish. Likewise, I've made friends in the US who are of Mexican descent and look very much like it but don't speak a lick of Spanish. This has led me to feel not at home in either my country…
If you were to accept the current estimates on IQ, where blacks have an average IQ of 85, Hispanics an average IQ of 90, whites an average IQ of 100 and Asians an average IQ of 105 with a standard deviation of 15 by design, and that Youtube only hires people two standard deviations from the mean, then about 2% of employees would be black, 5% Hispanic, 30% white and 63% Asian. I am quite sure that whites are over repr…
This assumes that there are equal number of people in the hiring pool in each category. There is nothing to suggest that the applicants that apply are drawn at random from the population. Also the absolute numbers of each groups also matter. On this basis we should expect far few Asian and Black employees just on the basis that there are fewer than whites within the USA [0]. 0. This is assuming the employee pool is d…
Ok. California is 39% Hispanic, 38.8% White, 5.8% Black and 13% Asian. California has 40 Million people. Let's say half have not graduated college yet and are not in the employee pool. That means 8 Million Hispanics, 8 Million whites, 1.16 Million Blacks and 2.6 Million Asians. Taking this new information into account, Asians should be around 37% of the employees, Blacks less than 1%, Hispanics around 9% and Whites 54%. Google's numbers say 61% White, 30% Asian, 2% Black and 3% Hispanic. So, it's both Hispanics and Asians who are under represented.
The thing I hate about actions like this is what it does to talented people who fit some diversity quota checklist, both in the perception they have of themselves and those of other people. If you are a talented melanin-rich woman you are going to face both heightened impostor syndrome and dismissal by others that you only got the job because of some quota. Not good for anyone. There are no easy solutions, but it wou…
Tell that to the white and asian males who get rejected on the basis of their race and gender despite having worked their entire lives to be the most qualified and technically adept candidate. I'm pretty sure impostor syndrome is a problem they would love to have. Instead they got the entire course of their careers (and lives) stepped on by bigoted racists and sexists. I know your comment has to be the top one becaus…
Most of these are also misclassified as white and asian Americans. ⅔ [1] of Silicon Valley tech workers are immigrants that risk discrimination due to being misclassified into US demographic categories from the EEO-1 Instruction Booklet [2] that underpins all diversity and inclusion programs.
It is currently impossible for an immigrant to avoid being mis-classified because the EEO-1 booklet states that if a person decline to state their race and/or ethnicity the employer is allowed to classify them on their own.
The misclassified immigrants is by far Silicon Valley's largest source of diversity, and the misclassification also makes diversity statistics incorrect for Americans in tech.
I think you TOTALLY misunderstood my point. Which was: how come drwl accepts the status quo with NBA and not with programmers? Why do they simply assume that some qualities are more prevalent with Blacks but not with males? I am not taking a position in my comment one way or the other, just pointing out a potential double standard so the reader can make their own conclusions by reconciling them :) I assume you are cl…
Correct me if I'm not understanding your argument. What I'm reading is that your argument is there is a "diversity" problem in the NBA and that comes from discrimination against non-blacks. And that this is the same discrimination mentioned in the article?
My argument is not that diversity should be increased nor the opposite. It is that there is a double standard.
A screenshot from an email says (p28):
"Please continue with L3 candidates in process and only continue with L3 candidates that are from historically underrepresented groups"
What happens if you are 1/2 white and 1/2 Hispanic? Who is in charge determining race?
The US gov considers Hispanic an ethnicity, not a race. So if you don't consider yourself one of the 5 races (white, black, American Indian, Asian, Pacific Islander) then you'd select other. Racial identity for Hispanics seems to be a complex personal decision.
The EEO-1 Instruction Booklet [1] that underpins all diversity and inclusion programs do not have an 'other' category, but it has a 'Decline to State'. The EEO-1 booklet states that if a person decline to state their race and/or ethnicity the employer is allowed to classify them on their own.
The phrase "historically underrepresented groups" in the US hides the truth that: historically underrepresented = minorities - Asian-Americans + white women Imagine if a policy were instituted that benefited minorities, then someone proposed that it should be tweaked so that it didn't help Asian-Americans so much and helped white women instead. They'd be laughed out of the room. Engineering is one of the few fields A…
It also doesn't make sense to apply US demographics to an industry where ⅔ [1] of the workers are immigrants. Silicon Valley recruits outliers from around the world.
Immigrants are misclassified into US demographic categories from the EEO-1 Instruction Booklet [2] that underpins all diversity and inclusion programs, and they risk discrimination for this.
I grew up in a somewhat cult like church environment. Speaking in tongues, adults laughing uncontrollably on the floor, people falling out after the laying on of hands. Although I respect Christianity and the values it teaches, looking back on my particular church environment, it seemed deep into lunacy territory. What's your point, you might be wondering... The point is at the time it seemed completely normal. Somet…
Guess you haven't watched Fox since you turned the TV back on... Really think you're overstating the positions liberals are putting forward. Also, your comment has no critical disagreement s with the positions themselves so I have to wonder if you're just trolling.
To be frank, Fox has been parroting the same conservative rhetoric for as long as I can remember. It’s the same as it was during the Bush years and the Obama years - O’Reilly has been replaced with Hannity and when Hannity retires another talking head will take his place. On the other hand CNN, NYT, Washington Post, MSNBC have shifted so far to the left, they would be unrecognizable to a time traveler from 15 years ago. Remember when CNN was considered in the center of the political spectrum and one of the most “objective” news source around?
There is a pronounced bias in the mainstream media and it is not towards the right.