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You specify your "race"/"gender" during application (or refuse to answer). It's up to you how you want to move forward I guess.
Then I wonder why poeple just don't lie? EG just put down: disabled autistic transgender native american. Everyone wins. Google gets to check a bunch of boxes and helps you jump to the top of the list. I doubt they would check your parents race and examine your privates.
YouTube Hiring for Some Positions Excluded White and Asian Males, Lawsuit Says
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#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
This isn’t a new problem. Women and POC that were hired following affirmative action reported being called “affirmative action hires” and faced workplace discrimination based on the idea that they didn’t deserve the jobs. Maybe they did, maybe they didn’t, but how was the issue of them being denied jobs based on sex or race to be solved otherwise?
You shouldn’t complain about being down voted. To answer your question the issue of discrimination is solved by not discriminating. If women and others are being discriminated against then stop doing this, rather than just start discriminating against other people.
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#153I really hope that this marks a turning of the tides, because what has been going on in tech, as well as certain non-tech industries, in the name of "diversity," has been nothing short of abhorrent. The doublespeak is inescapable. They claim to stand against racism and sexism, but will not hesitate to discriminate based on race or sex to meet some kind of nonsensical demographic parity targets which are absolutely no…
But it is not abhorrent to treat black people like shit and disclude them from many roles for many years?
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#154Did anyone not see this coming? The goal posts of equal _outcome_ continue to move, from university enrollment, to employment enrollment. And there are some people who want to see it go further. (What societal engineering scheme does this resemble?) With no apparent regard for what it costs. Do you want to live in a world where you are judged by the color of your skin, your gender, your "ethnicity"? Or do you think t…
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#155I remember back in college when I applied for a job in a multi-national company, I didn't get a math screening quiz that applicants from outside of United States had to take. The quiz was pretty easy middle school math that would take 15 minutes to complete. It turns out that the reason is that screening for basic math competency could be discrimination, because it reduces the chance of hiring for minorities who do l…
It turns out that the reason is that screening for basic math competency could be discrimination, because it reduces the chance of hiring for minorities who do less well at math testing. If it genuinely screens for basic math, then there's nothing racist about it. artificially discriminate in the opposite direction and suppress valid criteria that are statistically unfavorable to minorities. Eroding meritocracy is ul…
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
What happens if you are 1/2 white and 1/2 Hispanic? Who is in charge determining race?
I imagine your surname would carry a lot of weight.
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#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
This isn’t a new problem. Women and POC that were hired following affirmative action reported being called “affirmative action hires” and faced workplace discrimination based on the idea that they didn’t deserve the jobs. Maybe they did, maybe they didn’t, but how was the issue of them being denied jobs based on sex or race to be solved otherwise?
You shouldn’t complain about being down voted. To answer your question the issue of discrimination is solved by not discriminating. If women and others are being discriminated against then stop doing this, rather than just start discriminating against other people.
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#158The thing I hate about actions like this is what it does to talented people who fit some diversity quota checklist, both in the perception they have of themselves and those of other people. If you are a talented melanin-rich woman you are going to face both heightened impostor syndrome and dismissal by others that you only got the job because of some quota. Not good for anyone. There are no easy solutions, but it wou…
I'm pretty sure impostor syndrome is a problem they would love to have.
Instead they got the entire course of their careers (and lives) stepped on by bigoted racists and sexists.
I know your comment has to be the top one because it turns this whole thing back into more sympathy for women and minorities, but this is literally an article about white and asian males being overtly discriminated against on the basis of race and gender. Can some of the conversation be about that?
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#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
You shouldn’t complain about being down voted. To answer your question the issue of discrimination is solved by not discriminating. If women and others are being discriminated against then stop doing this, rather than just start discriminating against other people.
You can't stop discrimination without addressing the long-term systemic effects of pervasive discrimination.
No one expects it will be easy to end discrimination, but it is hard to see how it will be solved by piling on more discrimination.
Re: YouTube Hiring for Some Positions Excluded White and Asian Males, Lawsuit Says
#160I remember back in college when I applied for a job in a multi-national company, I didn't get a math screening quiz that applicants from outside of United States had to take. The quiz was pretty easy middle school math that would take 15 minutes to complete. It turns out that the reason is that screening for basic math competency could be discrimination, because it reduces the chance of hiring for minorities who do l…
Racist, discriminatory, or whatever you might think this would be, I cannot imagine being any type of manager in any type of corporation and wanting to hire someone above retail clerk-level who could not pass such a test. I just wouldn't want any company business passing through the judgement and perception of someone that never learned mathematical reasoning beyond single-variable algebra, even if it seems like math abilities are irrelevant to the position. Innumeracy might be less of a big deal than illiteracy, but it is still a fundamental gap.
If it was being pushed on international hires, it could have just been a trivial check against unreliable international standards and qualification reporting or something.