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Don't forget the other blip on the late 10th Century.
William the Conqueror’s father was a millennial.
And Jesus was born just a little too late to be a millenial. :(
California Losing Residents via Domestic Migration
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#212Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here in Southern California, we are running out of room for housing. You can basically drive all the way from San Diego to Santa Barbara, or from the coast to about a 100 miles inland and it's all city. Unless you are going to tear down existing housing and rebuild with more high density housing which is just cost prohibitive. I figure at some point availability of water will become the limiting factor.
Since agriculture uses the bulk of water, it is a matter of allocation and proper pricing. California’s is a knowledge-based economy—Agriculture contributes but a small percentage to it (about 2%). Why should we restrict the number of productive people who can live in the state in favor of crops? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_California
There is the small issue of those productive people needing to eat...
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It wasn't a very long time ago that California was red. You don't have to imagine. It was only after Pete Wilson decided to crackdown on latinos that the state shifted into solid D.
It wasn't a very long time ago that California was red. In Presidential voting, and only through 1988. Even then, the Legislature was consistently Democrat-controlled (in recent years, Democrat supermajorities).
I don’t think you remember Nixon and Reagan, or when the OC was a conservative bastion.
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> The middle class can no longer afford to remain in CA But that's not what most of the data shows. The bulk of the data shows lower-income, lower education Californians moving out. The strongest peak is for minimum wage incomes. While middle class incomes are still shown as leaving CA, it's far less than those at the lower end. For me the starkest and most concerning contrast is not wealthy vs. poor, but young vs. o…
They're moving in part because CA continues to push out businesses that require unskilled labor, through a combination of taxes, minimum wage hikes, regulations, and other roadblocks. Generally it's dressed up as a Good Thing, but I'm not so sure. CA has the highest poverty rates in the country, along with the highest taxes. SF is rich as all hell, but can't keep feces and needles from littering the sidewalks or car…
>CA has the highest poverty rates in the country
By what metric? looking at the census data, it appears the poverty rate of California, while not great, is certainly not the worst.
https://www.census.gov/data-tools/demo/saipe/saipe.html?s_ap...
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> It closed a loophole where Prop 13 (and other tax-restricting props) could be circumvented by introducing new taxes with slightly different names. No, property taxes are local. Prop 13 tied the hands of the state government. Prop 218 then applied the same shackles to local governments, which ensured that California would see the wave of municipal bankruptcies during the great recession and which prevented local gov…
the wave of municipal bankruptcies "Wave"? The Legislative Analyst's web page mentions only one completed bankruptcy (Vallejo), with only 3 other attempts.
"Completed" means they finished debt restructuring. Your "attempts" are actual bankruptcies that still hadn't exited bankruptcy at the time your LAO document was written.
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Prop 13 is what ruined California. Not only did it institute rent control for property owners with all its associated problems, but it also tied the hands of legislators for funding government programs, directly leading to the initiative-based rigid monstrosity of a state budget California suffers from today.
Not only did it institute rent control No. Prop 13 did no such thing.
> for property owners
Keep reading. Then look up "analogy" in the dictionary.
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#217Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not convinced this is a bad thing. What's wrong with having a higher educated, higher income populace?
someone still has to mop the floors.
My iRobot Scooba does that--poorly, but it does that. The Roomba handles the initial hard floor cleaning, and also the carpets.
I don't have a robot yet to clean the toilets, but I hear they exist in Japan, and my parents have one on their most heavily used commode.
Thank goodness California phased out most of its public telephones before sending all their telephone sanitizers on the 'B' Ark to Texas.
Whether there is a problem in pushing out all the low-skilled labor depends largely on whether all the work that those people do is automated yet. My concern is that jobs that require some on-site human judgment, but not a lot of skill, will start to go unfilled before robots are ready to step in.
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Oregon is interesting in that it's D because of Portland. The state is mostly conservative small cities or rural and yet the population of the Portland metro area leans so far left and has such a large population relative to the other parts of the state that it changes the entire state. Remove Portland voters from the polls and Oregon would be R.[0] [0] http://pamplinmedia.com/pt/9-news/212726-70134-how-liberal-i...
You could say the same thing about lots of blue states.
Any examples? I don't know of any other state that has 1 city with such an impact on the entire state as to turn it blue.
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#219Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's hard to say with certainty that the emigrants are poor and uneducated. It's just as likely that people are becoming rich and then leaving for lower tax states. There are also stronger political incentives for richer folk. "An individual’s likelihood of being a Democrat decreases with every additional dollar he or she earns." https://www.debt.org/faqs/americans-in-debt/economic-demogra...
> It's hard to say with certainty that the emigrants are poor and uneducated. That would be true, if, you know, there were breakdowns of income and education demographics in the article.
Yes.... I missed that on my first read haha
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#220Earlier quoted context omitted.
It wasn't a very long time ago that California was red. In Presidential voting, and only through 1988. Even then, the Legislature was consistently Democrat-controlled (in recent years, Democrat supermajorities).
I don’t think you remember Nixon and Reagan, or when the OC was a conservative bastion.
"OC was a conservative bastion" is very, very different from claiming "not long ago, California (overall) was red".
Without looking it up: when do you think was the most recent time that Republicans controlled both houses of the Legislature?