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21 Years of Income as a Software Engineer in San Francisco

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Re: 21 Years of Income as a Software Engineer in San Francisco

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Lol no. That’s delusional in London, unless you take into account day rate work

85-90k is the upper bound on senior dev salaries, but companies can and will go above that if you have specific skills they need and can't easily recruit for. (I make 6 figures in London, and that's full time and at a software company.)

What would an average salary for a medium-level dev look like? I've seen 40k GBP a few times, but that seems quite low.

Re: 21 Years of Income as a Software Engineer in San Francisco

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post #48
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Does anyone know what the take home pay is after tax for a 200k job - a month - after typical rent - in Frisco?

You can go on sites like Zillow or PadMapper and see rental listings. $4,000 seems typical now days for a 1 bedroom or studio. If you really want to slum it or have roommates you can find situations for less but for someone who has grown out of the roommates and frat house life style those options probably aren't appealing.

Wat? Try 3k for a 1br, 4k for a 2br.

That said, even with a 4k/mo apartment, you're looking at 4-5k after tax, housing, and retirement savings.

Re: 21 Years of Income as a Software Engineer in San Francisco

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post #48
post #17

Does anyone know what the take home pay is after tax for a 200k job - a month - after typical rent - in Frisco?

You can go on sites like Zillow or PadMapper and see rental listings. $4,000 seems typical now days for a 1 bedroom or studio. If you really want to slum it or have roommates you can find situations for less but for someone who has grown out of the roommates and frat house life style those options probably aren't appealing.

A studio in a luxury high-rise downtown runs more like $3300. $4000 is a damn nice 1-bedroom.

Re: 21 Years of Income as a Software Engineer in San Francisco

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I live in Canada and its quite upsetting to see salaries just a skip over the border that are 120K USD for remote positions but they won't even entertain hiring a Canadian, meaning in Canada the remoting range is 55-70 CAD USD. Going above 70K is possible but in my experience those jobs can only be acquired through personal networking in the GTA which is self-defeating because it keeps you tethered to the GTA. Imagin…

One way to "hacking" the location issue is to move to SV, get hired in a big company, then convince them over the years to set up a presence in your home country which you will gladly spearhead with no increased salary demands. Worked for my friend from an African country

Re: 21 Years of Income as a Software Engineer in San Francisco

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post #84

He may have been better off as a federal government worker, if you include pension and benefits into the equation, which I find discouraging.

I don't think so. If he didn't go into management and the working level was a GS-13, he'd eventually max out at a GS-13, Step 10, which is $133,967 a year in San Francisco.

His pension, under the current system, would be his "high three" average times 1% times years of service ($133,967 * .01 * 21) = $28,133.

Re: 21 Years of Income as a Software Engineer in San Francisco

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post #78

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Try applying through triplebyte. Their goal is a candidate blind, pure merit application process. I used them in my last job search, and was super impressed with every step along the way. Low stress, and lots of constant feedback on how to make myself a better candidate.

Triplebyte doesn't support applicants from outside the US.

We're currently able to work with applicants from a small number of countries outside of the US: see https://triplebyte.com/candidate_faq#question-8 for details. (I'm an engineer at Triplebyte.)

Re: 21 Years of Income as a Software Engineer in San Francisco

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...and also perhaps not the best way to attract talented staff.

sadly, the people who either can't or won't leave vancouver don't have a lot to choose from. I'm from there and it's really hilarious when people say something like Hootsuite is a "world class" place to work in some IT-related field. Meanwhile Seattle has things like SpaceX in Redmond developing satellites, Boeing jobs, Blue Origin, a number of tech companies that are not amazon, XKL (run by one of the founders of Ci…

Why must every tech job be SpaceX or Amazon or Boeing?

No, really. Most tech jobs are not super sexy, and I’m a little irritated that the prevailing opinion seems to be one of looking down your nose at every tech job that isn’t “prestigious”.

Re: 21 Years of Income as a Software Engineer in San Francisco

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post #86
post #84

He may have been better off as a federal government worker, if you include pension and benefits into the equation, which I find discouraging.

I don't think so. If he didn't go into management and the working level was a GS-13, he'd eventually max out at a GS-13, Step 10, which is $133,967 a year in San Francisco. His pension, under the current system, would be his "high three" average times 1% times years of service ($133,967 * .01 * 21) = $28,133.

Also worth noting that retirement after 21 years in industry isn't a financially sensible consideration for most federal civilians: assuming 27 years old in 1997, minimum retirement age would be 57 (9 years shy after 21 years), and even 2 years short of satisfying early retirement age requirement of 50[1].

[1] https://www.opm.gov/retirement-services/fers-information/eli...

Re: 21 Years of Income as a Software Engineer in San Francisco

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post #84

He may have been better off as a federal government worker, if you include pension and benefits into the equation, which I find discouraging.

Why is this, if true, discouraging? Do you think government workers (a pretty broad term which can encompass a wide range of positions and levels of expertise) should not be well paid?
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